2014-10-28_Fournier MINUTES OF A MEETING
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON TREES AND VIEWS
AN ADJOURNED MEETING
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE
CITY OF ROLLING HILLS
OCTOBER 28, 2014
CALL MEETING TO ORDER
A meeting of the Committee on Trees and Views was called to order by Chairperson Smith at 4:00 p.m.
on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at the top of the driveway in front of the Fournier home at 30 Crest Road
East, Rolling Hills, California.
ROLL CALL
Committee Members Present: Gray, Mirsch and Chairperson Smith.
Committee Members Absent: None.
Others Present: Raymond R. Cruz, City Manager.
Yolanta Schwartz, Planning Director.
Shahiedah Coates, Assistant City Attorney.
Heidi Luce, City Clerk.
Debi Fournier, 30 Crest Road East.
Howard Weinberg, Attorney.
Brandon Gill, Arborist, American Arbor Care.
Michael Sherman, 33 Crest Road East.
Samantha Lamberg, Attorney.
Brad Travers, Arborist, Travers Tree Service
Craig and Hanne Ekberg, 35 Crest Road East.
PUBLIC HEARING
CONSIDERATION OF VIEW IMPAIRMENT COMPLAINT REGARDING TREES AT THE
FOLLOWING LOCATION:
LOCATION OF TREES: 33 CREST ROAD EAST
PROPERTY OWNER: MR. AND MRS. SHERMAN
COMPLAINANTS: MR. AND MRS. FOURNIER,
30 CREST ROAD EAST
The Members of the Committee and the parties present assembled at the top of the driveway in front of
the Fournier home at 30 Crest Road East.
Chairperson Smith introduced the item and asked for staff's comments. Planning Director Schwartz
briefly reviewed the view impairment complaint filed by the Fourniers at 30 Crest Road East regarding
trees located at 33 Crest Road East owned by the Shermans. She stated that the Committee is tasked
with determining the viewing area; determining if there is a view and was there a view at the time the
current properiy owner acquired the property; determining if the view is impaired and whether or not it
is significantly impaired; and determining if any action is necessary to restore the view. She stated that
the applicant purchased the properry in 1993 and the photo submitted showing the view is from 1996.
She further stated that the Committee must also consider the impact any restorative action may have on
the environment and on the property owner's privacy and enjoyment of their property and reviewed the
correspondence that has been received since the last meeting.
The Committee proceeded into the Fournier home and assessed the view from Mr. Fournier's office
located to the East of the front doors, and from the dining area and a second office located West of the
front doors. City Manager Cruz took photographs from each of the viewing areas.
The Members of the Committee and the parties present then assembled to the top of the driveway
serving the Sherman property and viewed the trees in that area of the properiy as well as the trees along
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Hearing no further public comment, the public comment portion of the meeting was closed and the
Committee began deliberation. The Committee concurred that there is a view and that there was enough
evidence presented to confirm that a view existed when the Fourniers acquired their property and that
the view is impaired. Committee Member Gray commented that he feels that parts of the trees on the
Fournier property also impair the view. Committee Member Mirsch commented that the trees on the
Fournier property are not in the Committee's purview. Committee Member Gray commented that when
Committee considers restoring view corridors, the trees on the Foumier property should be taken into
consideration.
Committee Member Mirsch suggested that the Committee consider what remediation actions the
Shermans have already agreed to. Assistant City Attorney Coates stated that the Committee could ask
staff to provide the information as provided for the Occhipinti case or ask the Shermans for that
information. In response to Committee Member Mirsch, Ms. Coates commented that the Committee has
to make a decision with respect to the trees in response to each of the applications. Chairperson Smith
questioned if the Committee should seek further information with regard to what remediation actions the
Shermans have agreed to; the conflicting geology reports, the determination of mature vs. maturing and
the CEQA requirements. In response, Ms. Coates stated that the Committee could bring in third party
independent consultants but that the scope of work should be determined first and the Committee has the
discretion to make some of those determinations. She stated that with regard to the environmental
impacts,the decision should be based on evidence in the recard.
Committee Member Gray commented that to him this matter is clear. He reviewed the view photograph
stating that the hedge height is not an issue because it is already at an appropriate height based on the
ridgeline of the house. He further reviewed the other trees that the Shermans have already agreed to trim
ar remove and stated that he feels that will provide an adequate view corridor and still maintain the
Sherman's privacy. Discussion ensued concerning what the Fourniers have requested in comparison to
what Committee Member Gray is suggesting based on what the Shermans have agreed to. Planning
Director Schwartz reminded the Committee that this is not a negotiation and it is not relevant whether
the parties agree or disagree. She further suggested that the Committee may consider going tree by tree
to consider what action should or should not be required on each tree. Further discussion ensued
conceming what is being requested. Ms. Coates reminded the Committee that it is being asked to
balance views, as an important property asset with the need to protect vegetation from indiscriminate
removal and to consider view corridors and a view through as opposed to restoring unobstructed views.
Committee Member Gray commented that what he has suggested is in line with what Mr. Sherman has
agreed to and would restore a view corridor and be good for the health of the trees. Ms. Coates stated
that since what Mr. Sherman has agreed to is not on the rewrd on this case, she recommends that the
Committee does not characterize an agreement as having already been made. Committee Member
Mirsch commented that it would be helpful to have that information. In response, Ms. Coates
commented that the Committee may ask questions of the parties, if doing so will help the Committee in
forming its decision. She further reminded the Committee that the matter is no longer in mediation so it
is not a negotiation. Planning Director Schwartz commented that if either of the parties does not agree
with the Committee's action with regard to this case, the matter can be appealed to the City Council.
Committee Member Gray asked Mr. Sherman if he disagreed with anytk�ing that he had suggested thus
far. Ms. Coates commented that questions of the parties should be asked on a tree-by-tree basis as the
Committee moves along.
The Committee then discussed the individual trees and groups of trees and came to the following
determinations with regazd to remediation action, maintenance and cost allocation:
Tree# Tree Type Action Maintenance
1 Eucalyptus Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
2-3 Olive Tree Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
6 Eucalyptus Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
7 Canary Island Pine Lace Every two years
8 Brazilian Pepper Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
9-16 Photinia Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
17 Pittosporum Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
18 BrazilianPepper Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
19 Pittosporum Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
20-23 Eucalyptus Crown reduction to ridgeline of house Every two years
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Respectfully submitted,
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Heidi Luce
City Clerk
Approved,
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Ji� V. Smith
Chairperson
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