2014-11-18_Fournier.pdfMINUTES OF A MEETING
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON TREES AND VIEWS
AN ADJOURNED MEETING
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE
CITY OF ROLLING HILLS
NOVEMBER 18, 2014
CALL MEETING TO ORDER
A meeting of the Committee on Trees and Views was called to order by Chairperson Smith at 5:02 p.m.
on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 in the City Council Chamber, at City Hall, 2 Portuguese Bend Road,
Rolling Hills, California.
ROLL CALL
Committee Members Present: Gray, Mirsch and Chairperson Smith.
Committee Members Absent: None.
Others Present: Raymond R. Cruz, City Manager.
Yolanta Schwartz, Planning Director.
Shahiedah Coates, Assistant City Attorney.
Heidi Luce, City Clerk.
Debi Fournier, 30 Crest Road East.
Howard Weinberg, Attorney.
Brandon Gill, Arborist, American Arbor Care.
Michael Sherman, 33 Crest Road East.
Samantha Lamberg, Attorney.
Brad Travers, Arborist, Travers Tree Service
Craig and Hanne Ekberg, 35 Crest Road East.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON MINUTES OR ANY ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE ON TREES AND VIEWS, TUESDAY,
OCTOBER 28, 2014 (SHERMAN/FOURNIER).
Chairperson Smith noted one correction in the minutes to remove the reference to maintenance every
two years for the trees that are being removed. Committee Member Mirsch noted that the section in the
minutes relative to the cost allocation did not include details of the lengthy discussion that occurred
regarding the allocation of cost and asked that the minutes reflect more details relating to her reason for
opposition. Committee Member Mirsch asked that a statement be added to the minutes to reflect that
her opposition to the cost sharing of the maintenance was also because she does not feel that the number
of trees or the cost of maintaining those trees is sufficient reason to deviate from the normal distribution
of costs. Following brief discussion, Committee Member Gray moved that the Committee on Trees and
Views approve the minutes of the October 28, 2014 meeting of the Committee on Trees and Views as
amended. Committee Member Mirsch seconded the motion which carried without objection.
PUBLIC HEARING
CONSIDERATION OF VIEW 1MPAMMENT COMPLAINT REGARDING TREES AT THE
FOLLOWING LOCATION:
LOCATION OF TREES
PROPERTY OWNER:
COMPLAINANTS:
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33 CREST ROAD EAST
MR. AND MRS. SHERMAN
MR. AND MRS. FOURNIER,
30 CREST ROAD EAST
AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE ROLLING HILLS COMMITTEE ON
TREES AND VIEWS DECLARING A SIGNIFICANT VIEW IMPAIRMENT CAUSED BY
SPECIFIC TREES LOCATED AT 33 CREST ROAD EAST AND SETTING FORTH
RESTORATIVE ACTION TO ABATE THE IMPAIRMENT.
Chairperson Smith introduced the item and asked for staff's comments. Planning Director Schwartz
stated that at the last meeting after a field trip to both properties and deliberation on the matter, the
Committee directed staff to prepare a Resolution setting forth the restorative actions necessary to restore
the view corridor from the Fournier property. She reviewed the Resolution which requires action on 63
trees and the hedge with two trees to be removed and sets forth the cost allocation whereby the
complainant pays the cost for the initial restorative action and the cost for the maintenance is shared by
both parties. She stated that the Resolution contains a condition that the exact location of Tree #51 shall
be verified to confirm if it is on the Sherman's property or a neighboring property. She stated that based
on staff and the City Attorney's review of the remediation actions required, it was found that the
proposed action is exempt from environmental review under the California Environmental Quality Act
(CEQA) and the reasons for the exemption are included in the Resolution. She reviewed the
Committee's options for action at this meeting which include: adopt the Resolution as presented; discuss
the Resolution and adopt with non -substantive changes or continue the case to the next meeting of the
Committee. She reviewed the changes to the Resolution that were made since it was provided to the
Committee and the parties and provided a revised Resolution. The changes noted were in Section 7(A)
to correct the location of the office to the "east of the main entrance" and in Section 8(C) to add a
sentence after the first sentence stating that "Said costs shall be determined by the lowest of three bids
obtained by the owners of 33 Crest Road East with any amount above the amount of the lowest bid
being paid for by the owners of 33 Crest Road East." She further noted that the reference to maintenance
of the removed trees every two years has been removed from the Resolution and as noted in the
correspondence from Ms. Lamberg regarding Tree #71, the tree will be removed, including stumps and
roots. She further noted that the reference to the last exhibit is purposefully blank because it can't be
included until the restorative action has been completed.
Planning Director Schwartz further commented that additional correspondence was received from Mr.
Weinberg objecting to the cost allocation and from Ms. Lamberg asking for clarification on the
Resolution. She noted that an additional correspondence was received from Mr. Weinberg at the meeting
tonight which has been placed on the dais but has not been reviewed by staff.
In response to Chairperson Smith regarding the cost sharing, Assistant City Attorney Coates confirmed
that this is not the first time a Resolution has included that the parties share the maintenance costs.
Chairperson Smith called for comments from the public.
Howard Weinberg, Attorney addressed the Committee on behalf of the applicant further expressing his
objection to the cost sharing of the maintenance costs as are outlined in the correspondence he sent to
the City Attorney. He provided suggestions for specific textual changes to define the view plane and
clarify the view that is to be restored and maintained.
Michael Sherman, 33 Crest Road East addressed the Committee stating that the number of trees to be
maintained to restore the applicant's view presents a financial burden and he feels the expense for the
maintenance should be shared by the parties and the Committee has the authority to order as such.
Ms. Lamberg, Attorney addressed the Committee on behalf of the Shermans stating that should the
Committee be inclined to alter the cost allocation her client should be provided a full opportunity to
respond to the legal arguments presented. She stated that she provided an e-mail that outlines the issues
they have with the Resolution. Brief discussion ensued concerning adding more specific language in the
Resolution with regard to the timing of trimming of the Pine Trees. The Committee Members concurred
that when the Pine Trees are to be trimmed, Mr. Sherman should consult his arborist with regard to
timing of the trimming. Ms. Lamberg further commented that she feels that language in Section 8(B)
should be changed to reflect that the Sherman's will select a contractor to perform the initial restorative
action provided that the full amount of the deposit has been received including the portion of the deposit
from the Occhipintis.
Craig Ekberg, 35 Crest Road East addressed the Committee to express his opinion that the complainant
should be required to share some of the burden of the cost of the ongoing maintenance of the trees.
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Assistant City Attorney Coates provided comments in response to some of the points raised in the
correspondence received from Mr. Weinberg concerning the cost allocation. With regard to the applicant
not being aware that they may be required to pay some of the ongoing maintenance costs, she stated that
the FAQ page on the City's web site specifically addresses the cost allocation and states that "in certain
situations, when appropriately justified, this assignment of cost may be modified." She provided further
clarification relative to the implementation section of the Ordinance stating that the section refers to
subsequent maintenance as well as initial restorative action. She further stated that the City does have
enforcement mechanisms available and with regard to recording the document on the Title, doing so
simply advises future owners of the financial obligation but does not affect the future conveyance of
property. She further discussed the grounds for modifying the allocation of costs and suggested adding
an additional finding that deals not just with the number of trees but also with the fact that in order to
preserve the restored view which is a benefit to the complainant, the scope of the maintenance is
different and represents an increased burden on the Shermans. With regard to the issue raised regarding
defining the view plane, she stated that a photograph taken after the restorative action is complete is the
most detailed comprehensive way to document the view.
Ms. Coates provided further comments in response to the issues raised in the e-mail from Ms. Lamberg.
She stated that it is outside the Committee's authority to direct a party, other than those involved in this
case, to do anything specific to this case. With respect to other matters raised by Ms. Lamberg, she
stated that the contractor selected to do the work should complete the work in compliance with
professional standards; and with regard to the question regarding maintenance cost, that correction was
already made by Planning Director Schwartz earlier this evening.
in response to Committee Member Gray, Ms. Coates stated that the City Attorney's office has reviewed
the Resolution and feels it is legally defensible. She recommended adding the additional finding she
mentioned earlier regarding the increased maintenance as additional support for the allocation of costs.
Following brief discussion, the Committee concurred that the following sentence should be added to
Section 7(G): As further grounds justifying modification in the allocation of the maintenance costs, the
Committee finds that preservation of the views created by this Resolution requires a substantial change
in the maintenance of trees on 33 Crest Road East.
With regard to matter of the deposit, Ms. Lamberg suggested that a clause be added in the beginning of
Section 8(B) to clarify that provided that 100% of the deposit has been received, the work shall be
completed by the Shermans. Discussion ensued concerning adding the language suggested by Ms.
Lamberg. In response to Committee Member Gray, Assistant City Attorney Coates commented that she
is not opposed to adding the language as follows: Provided that the full cash deposit referenced in
Section 8(A) is received, the work for the initial restorative action shall be completed. The Committee
concurred with making that change.
Committee Member Gray moved that the Committee on Trees and Views adopt the Resolution as
amended above. Chairperson Smith seconded the motion. Committee Member Mirsch commented that
the View Ordinance does not specifically provide for modification to the allocation of cost for
subsequent maintenance of the trees and she finds it misleading to potential applicants that such
language is only referenced in the FAQ's. She stated that she still does not feel that the complainant
should have to pay any portion of the ongoing maintenance costs given that the Committee found that
the view existed previously and the Resolutions restores a view to which the Committee found the
applicant was entitled to under the Ordinance. She stated that she cannot make a finding to support
allocating any of the ongoing maintenance costs to the applicant. Committee Member Mirsch further
commented that she agrees with an individual's property rights to have trees but that a property owner
also has a responsibility to maintain their property, which includes the trees. She suggested that the
Ordinance be amended to more clearly define the cost allocation options.
Following discussion concerning the cost allocation with Committee Member Gray and Chairperson
Smith both expressing support for the cost allocation as provided for in the Resolution, the motion to
adopt the Resolution as amended carried with Committee Member Mirsch opposed. Committee Member
Mirsch stated for the record that she is only opposed to the part of the Resolution related to sharing of
the maintenance costs.
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Chairperson Smith adjourned the meeting at 6:16 p.m. to an adjourned meeting of the Rolling Hills
Planning Commission Committee on Trees and Views scheduled to be held on Tuesday, December 16,
2014 beginning at 5:00 p.m. in the City Council Chamber, at City Hall, 2 Portuguese Bend Road,
Rolling Hills, California.
Respectfitlly submitted,
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Heidi Luce
City Clerk
Approved,
Ji1W. Smith
Chairperson
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