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JODY MURDOCK
Mayor
GINNY LEEUWENBURGH
Mayor pro tem
THOMAS F. HEINSHEIMER
Councilman
GODFREY PERNELL
Councilman
GORDANA SWANSON
Councilwoman
Mr. and Mrs. Kenneth Vroom
26 Middleridge Lane South
Rolling Hills, CA 90274
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Vroom:
INCORPORATED JANUARY 24, 1957
NO. 2 PORTUGUESE BEND ROAD
ROLLING HILLS, CALIF. 90274
(213) 377-1521
September 15, 1983
Re: Zoning Case No. 285
This letter is to serve as official notice pursuant to Section
17.32.090 of the Rolling Hills Municipal Code that a Variance for
side yard setback requirements for a swimming pool and equipment
has been approved .by the City Planning Commission on August 23, 1983
:for your property at 25 Middleridge Lane South. A formal report of
the Planning Commission as required by Section 17.32.086 of the
:Municipal Code is contained within the minutes of the proceedings
ibefore the Commission, a copy of which is attached.
The City Council of the City of Rolling Hills reviewed the
:action of the Planning Commission on Monday, September 12, 1983,
:pursuant to Section 17.32.140 of the Municipal Code. Since no
.:action was taken regarding the Variance, the decision of the P1an-
-:ning Coiuiiiission has been ratified by the City Council. The project
as outlined on Exhibit "A" of Zoning Case No. 285 is approved.
Should you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact
this office.
Sincerely,- ��
Ronald L. Smith
City Manager
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copy: D. McHattie, South Bay Engineering Cor,
. J. Rockwell, 32 Middleridge Lane South
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denial caused a hardship for his family in caring for their horses,
especially in bad weather, over the years he has realized that it was
a good decision. In researching the records with staff, Mr. Weiman
said it was determined that no approval for construction in the front
yard on any property on Crest Road has been approved subsequent to the
decision pertaining to his property, and he said he agrees with the
consistency shown by the Planning Coiiuuission when considering such
requests.
Chairman Roberts said the matter would be held on the agenda to'
give members of the Planning Commission an opportunity to visit the
property, and he asked that the engineer stake the property to define
the corners of the proposed tennis court, the corners of the proposed
residence addition, the 50' front setback and the height of the fence
proposed for the tennis court at the most southerly point. .The appli-
cant was advised that a date for a field trip would be set later in
the meeting, and with the consent of the applicant the matter was held.
SUBDIVISION NO. 77, KENNETH VROOM, 26 MIDDLERIDGE LANE SOUTH 2247
Chairman Roberts opened discussion of a request for a lot line
adjustment between two properties on Middleridge Lane South submitted
by Mr. Kenneth Vroom, 26 Middleridge Lane South, in connection with a
request before the Planning Commission for a Variance for encroachment
of a swimming pool into the side yard setback. The City Manager ex-
plained that an exchange of land between Mr. Vroom and Mr. Jack Rock-
well, owner of property located at 32 Middleridge Lane South had been
agreed to by the two property owners as a solution when it was deter-
mined that construction on the Vroom property. encroached on the Rock-
well property because of a misinterpretation of the location of the
property line.
Commissioner Hankins asked whether Mr. Rockwell had indicated
that he was agreeable to the adjustment. Mr. Vroom said Mr. Rockwell
had agreed and was planning to attend the meeting, but was unable to
do so because of personal circumstances. Chairman Roberts thereafter
closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Hankins moved that Subdivision No. 77, a lot line
adjustment between Lots 248A-2-UR and 248A-3-UR be approved. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Field and carried by the following
roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bundy, Field, Frost, Hankins
Chairman Roberts
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ZONING CASE NO. 285, KENNETH VROOM; 26 MIDDLERIDGE LANE SOUTH 2272
Chairman Roberts opened discussion of Zoning Case No. 285, a
request by Mr. Vroom_for a Variance for encroachment of a swimming
pool into the side yard, held on the agenda from -the previous meeting
to give members of the Commission an opportunity to'.make a field
trip. The Manager explained that the special circumstances required
for approval of a variance are, in this case, the shape of the lot
and the deep canyon behind it, which limit the location of improve-
ments. Mr. Smith said that the pool will remain, but a portion of
the decking adjacent to the Rockwell property will be removed and
the pool equipment will be relocated. Chairman Roberts thereafter
closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Bundy moved that a request for a variance of side
yard setback requirements be approved for Lot No. 248A-2-UR, located
at 2 Middleridge Lane South, for encroachment of a swimming pool.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hankins. In discussing the
matter Commissioner Frost asked how such situations can be avoided,
since Mr. Vroom had represented to the Planning Commission that the
pool location was believed to be in a legal location as determined
by using the plot plan supplied by the developer of the property.
Mr. McHattie said that as a result of the error on this property, it
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is now required that all properties be surveyed before a building
permit can be issued.
The motion was carried on the following roll .call vote:
AYES Commissioners Bundy, Field, Frost, Hankins
Chairman Roberts
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ZONING CASE NO. 286, D. LUGLIANI, 3 QUAIL RIDGE ROAD NORTH, VARIANCE 2318
Chairman Roberts opened discussion of Zoning Case No. 286, a re-
quest for Variance of front setback requirements to permit a 15 foot
encroachment into the required 50 foot setback for a garage addition,
which was held on the agenda from the previous meeting to give members
of the Commission an opportunity to visit the property.
Commissioner Field said that when he looked at the property and
the plan for a new driveway to serve the garage addition, it was his
impression that an additional entrance to. Quail Ridge Road at that
location would not be desireable, since a sharp right turn would be
required to access the driveway. Commissioner Field said the plan
shows the garage doors located on the northwesterly side of the
garage, and he suggested that they be relocated to the southeasterly
side so the existing driveway can be used to serve the new garage, as
well as provide access to the front door of the residence. Mr. Lowell
Lusk, architect, represented the owner at the meeting, and he said an
attempt is being made to arrive at a convenient solution, and it was
considered more aesthetically pleasing to have the garage doors in a
location which would not be visible to approaching traffic; however,
he agreed that one drivewayis always less'dangerous than multiple
driveways, stating that one property on Quail Ridge Road actually has
three driveways exiting on Quail Ridge Road. Chairman Roberts said
he shares Commissioner Field's concern, and agreed that the owners
should be requested to change the location of the garage doors and.,
eliminate the additional driveway. Mr. Lusk said he would accept
that condition on belialf•of the applicant. Chairman Roberts there-
after closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Field moved that the request for a Variance for a
15 foot encroachment into the required.50 foot front setback for a
garage addition be approved, subject to submittal of a new plan to
be marked Exhibit "A", said plan to show garage doors relocated from
the northwesterly to the southeasterly face, and the existing drive-
way enlarged and widened to accommodate the garage opening. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Hankins and carried by the fol-
lowing roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bundy, Field, Frost, Hankins
Chairman Roberts
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mr. Lusk said the rear of the property will be restored to the
original contours following removal of a partly constructed wing which
included a garage in a location which was inconveniently remote from
the rest of the house.
CITY COUNCIL AGENDA
The Manager said '.the requests approved by the Planning Commission
at the current meeting will be submitted to the City Council on the
agenda of the September.12, 1983 meeting,. and he asked that Mr. Lusk
submit the revised map prior to that date.
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JODY MURDOCK
Mayor
GINNY LEEUWENBURGH
Mayor pro tom
THOMAS F. HEINSHEIMER
Councilman
GODFREY PERNEL.L
Councilman
GORDANA SWANSON
Councilwoman
Mr. Kenneth Vroom
26 Middleridge Lane South
Rolling Hills, CA 90274
Dear Mr. Vroom:
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INCORPORATED JANUARY 24, 1957
NO. 2 PORTUGUESE BEND ROAD
ROLLING HILLS. CALIF. 90274
013) 377-1521
August 25, 1983
Re: Zoning Case No. 285
This letter is to serve as official notice, pursuant to Section
17.32.090 of the Rolling Hills Municipal Code, that a Variance for
side yard setback requirements has been approved by the City Planning
Commission for your property at 26 Middleridge Lane South. On Aug-
ust 22, 1983 the Planning Commission approved the side yard setback
deviation for a swimming pool and pool equipment at 26 Middleridge
Lane South. The specific setbacks approved are shown on Exhibit "A"
attached to the file of Zoning Case No. .285.
This notice shall serve as a copy of.the decision of the Plan-
ning Commission. A formal report of the Planning Commission's action
as required by Section17.32.086 is contained in the minutes of the
proceedings before the Commission.
The City Council of the City of Rolling Hills will be reviewing
the action of the Planning Commission on Monday, September 12, 1983
at 7:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers, pursuant to Section 17.32.140
of the Municipal Code of the City of Rolling Hills to determine whether
the action of the Planning Commission should be appealed by the City
Council.
Should you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact
this office.
Sincerely,
Ronald L. Smith
City Manager
copy: D. McHattie, South Bay Engineering
J. Rockwell, 32 Middleridge Lane S.
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£i1City 01 /eof/n _Wad INCORPORATED JANUARY 24, 1957
NO. 2 PORTUGUESE BEND ROAD
. ROLLING HILLS. CALIF. 90274
(213) 377-1521
January 8, 1982
TO: City Council
FROM: City Manager,AWeii/ti%L
SUBJECT: Kenneth Vroom, 26 Mi dleridge Lane South.
Mr. Vroom has constructeda swimming_ pool , ;•deck and: pool
equipment in what has been determined to be the side yard set-
back of his property located at 26 Middleridge Lane South.
In the fall of 1981 I discussed the matter with Mr. Vroom
and suggested that since his problem also involved the easement
on his property and the matter was being worked through the Board
of Directors, he could wait to file a request with the Planning
Commission for a variance of side yard requirements until the
process through the Association was completed. As you may know
from the minutes of the meetings of the Board, he has been direc-
ted to remove the construction from the easement. The minutes
of the Board now indicate that Bill Kinkey has been directed to
take action to quiet title. In view of this Mr. Vroom has some
reluctance.to proceed to apply for a variance to the City while
he is in litigation. with the Community Association.
In this matter we need advice from the City Attorney as to
whether Mr. Vroom should be required to file his application and
complete his requirement of administrative remedies with. the City.
Also, Mr. Vroom has now advised me that all correspondence refer-
ring to his property must now be sent to his attorney.
As I reported to you last fall, after this occurred and we
found that the Rolling Hills Community Association was not re-
quiring surveys of properties, the Council initiated a procedure_
which requires that the County require a survey before issuing a
City building permit, and we thereby closed that gap.
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DEPARTMEf1T OF COUf1TY Ef1GIf1EER-FACILITIES
550 SOUTH VEAMO(1T, LOS AAGELES, CA 90020
(213) 738-2011
LOS CERRITOS-CENTINELA VALLEY REGIONAL OFFICE
24320 SOUTH NARBONNE AVENUE
LOMITA, CA 90717
325-9500
June 30, 1981
Mrs. Teena Clifton
City Manager
2 Portuguese Bend Road
Rolling Hills, California 90274
Dear Mrs. Clifton:
BUILDING PERMIT PROCESSING
AND INSPECTION FUNCTIONS
.PLAN CHECKING
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
PETER F. SCHABARUM
KENNETH HAHN
EDMUND D. EDELMAN
DEANE DANA
MICHAEL D. ANTONOVICH
Upon receiving plans for checking, they are reviewed by the County
geologist, the site drainage engineer and the structural (building
code) plan review engineer.,
The plans are then returned to the applicant withcomments, and are
subsequently rechecked and approved.
The City building permit is issued after the Community Association's
Architectural. Committee has stamped their approval on the plans and
the Association's building permit has been issued, as evidenced by our
review of the job record card.
BUILDING INSPECTION
The City building inspectors first structural inspection is for footings
and foundations. Prior to his approval to pour concrete, he first
requires that the Architectural Committee's inspector's signature appears
Mrs. Teena Clifton
June 30, 1981
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on the job record card showing approval for structure location and
setbacks.
Other structural, electrical, mechanical, etc. inspections follow in
normal sequence.
The City Building Department does not perform any zoning administration
function in either the plan checking or field inspection phase.
Very truly yours,
STEPHEN J. KOONCE
City Engineer
Ivan M. Bulium
District Engineer
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Mr. and Mrs. Jack Rockwell
32 Middleridge Ln. S.
Rolling Hills, Calif. 90274
RE;26 and 32 Middleridge Ln. s. property lines
Dear Jack and. Karen; .
We have taken your advice to seek legal counsel due to the
fact that this is the method you have chosen to take instead of
working out the problem as neighbors and friends. The following
statements establish the facts as we know them to be true.
1),We have relied upon Bob Shrank, the builder and seller;
the listing and selling realtors; Budget Nursery; South Bay
Engineering; and, the City of Rolling Hills for establishing the
property lines. ..
2) Landscaping indicated property line to be in a different
location than it has now been established through the survey by
South Bay Engineering.
3) There were approximately 8 sprinklers on the property in
question which were connected to our water lines which we have
been watering for the past two years.
4) We have been paying gardening bill for the past two years
on property in question. Gardener has been directed by you. that
your property went to the middle of the "assumed existing easement",
and he was shown points where he was to garden to by. you.
5) Fence has been up for over 12 years and was only moved 2
months ago another 3 feet farther as we were told by Roger that
we had another 3 or 4 feet to move the fence. We were given the
permission to install the fence through the city. The fence has
been of service to you for tying your horses to.
6) For the past two years up until a couple weeks ago, neither
you nor us have questioned where the easement was located as shown
by..the fact that you have paid for the excavation of a trail to
be put in from the"assumed easement" down to your.horse corrals.
7). Trees in question have been planted for approximately one
year and Shrubs for four months.
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8) We have invested approximately $40,000.00 in improvements
involving subject property which we secured as a 2nd trust deed
against our home.
9). The esthetic value of both of our homes is best under
current "assumed" conditions.
10) All encroachments were totally unintentional.
11) If the true property lines had been established at the
time we were purchasing the home, we would not have made the.
purchase, as one of the major selling points to us was the way
in which the yard in question was laid out and the amount of
room included in it.
12) We have been good neighborsto you and we are sure you will
not deny the fact that we have been of assistance to you on numerous
emergency occasions, supplied numerous items to you that you needed
to borrow from time to time, and transported your children home
from school several times a week, and became personally involved
in your time of crisis with Kim to the point of having her live in
our home and having our home available to her for as long as you
needed. I am sure you realize from all of these situations that
we have never done anything to try and hurt you or your family, but
quite the contrary, have always tried to be of service to you.
13) We have been good citizens in the City of Rolling Hills as
established by the fact that all improvements we have done to our
property have been done with permits andtheir approval. We have
always tried to maintain our property in good condition and are
constantly striving to upgrade it.
Due to the foregoing, the following is our legal advice;
A) We are requesting permissive use of the property in question,'
and for such use . we offer to pay a reasonable rent, which will in-
clude property taxes on a Prorated basis for the total square footage
of the property in question.
B) We are not claiming any ownership in the property in question
as has been established by the survey of June 17, 1981.
':) At such time as structural damage should occur to pool and
surrotnding decks and equipment which would necessitate replacement,
we would be willing to move them at that time.
As a matter of compromive and settlement, the foregoing is what
we are agreeable to do at this time. If this is not agreeable, our
offer is withdrawn.
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Any attempt on your part or someone contracted by you to
remove existing decks, equipment, drain lines, fences, trees,
shrubs, etc., while this matter is being settled will be deemed
as trespass and will result in litigation.
We are sorry that this has all come about and is having
to be handled through formal procedures such as this.
Sincerely,
Ken and Denise Vr. m
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QUINN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY
To Whom It May Concern: 8-17-81
In an effort to clearify my position and actions relative to
the swim pool and spa construction on the Vroom property lo-
ated at #26 Middleridge South in the city of Rolling Hills,
California I respectfully submit the following information.
In the normal course of construction of a pool in the above
mentioned city it is customary to trace the plot plan of the
property in question from the the approved house plans which
are on file with the Community Association. In so doing this
I felt that the plan on file did not totally agree with I had
seen visually upon my first visit to the property when in-
vited to by the Vrooms to do so. I revisited the Community
Association office to recheck the plan on file and at that.
time indicated to Mrs Minor that I wasn't confident with what
I saw on the plan. The owner told me that he was under the
impressi:on'.that'4the builder had to make a slight adjustment
in postioning the house when he started the construction in
order to accomodate the drive way. We then made on site meas-
urments of the house in order to design the pool and spa. Those
dimensions were, then used in the resultant plans which were
submitted to the community Association for approval.
At no time were any "survey stakes" encountered or used in
the measuring aspect or layout of the pool prior to the actual
excavation.
The owner informed me that the City was going to send a represent-
ative from their office to the site to verify the dimensions
shown on the proposed pool plan. These were the plans that
were ultimately used in the construction of the pool, spa and
equipment enclosure.
I would like also to say at this time that in the event that
a wall or screen fence is located in a close proximity to the
pool that it could have an adverse effect on any warranty on
the structure of the pool or piping. Modifications of the pool
structure are not recommended.
Respe5, ly,
uinn; 'P es.
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2931 OAKWOOD LANE • TORRANCE, CALIFORNIA 90505• • (213) 530-6302 • LICENSE #364833
QUINN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY
Mr & Mrs K Vroom 7-30-81
Per your request the following is a estimate of the costs
involved in relocating your swimming pool and related con-
crete decking in its entirety:
Demolition of existing pool and deck, removal of
of piping and conduits, hauling of all debris to
dump, 5 importing of suitable soil to fill the cav--
ity created by the pool with necessary compaction
and inspections by a qualified soils engineering
firm. This would cost approximately $18,000.00.
To recmnstruct a like structure in another part of
of your property would cost approximately $40,000.00.
The cost of relandscaping the area is not offered.
Also included is an estimate of removing approximately
175 s/f of concrete decking and relocating the existing
pool equipment and enclosure including plumbing, gas &
electrical lines to a point within twenty feet of where
they presentley are located. This would cost approximately
$2700.00.
Respectfully submitted,
Quinn ' •
pres Quinn Construction
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2931 OAKWOOD LANE • TORRANCE. CALIFORNIA 90505 • (213) 530-6302 • LICENSE #364833