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none, Plans - erosion control, solar, CorrespondenceT.I.N. ENGINEERING COMPANY Geotechnical • Structural • Environmental 17834 Bailey Drive • Torrance. CA 90504 Tel: (310) 383-6702 Fax: (310) 371-5856 tinsoilsbeepCgmail.com Mr. and Mrs. Takashi and Toshiko Nakamura #18 Poppy Trail Rolling Hills, California 90274 File No.: 190053 rtp29 SEP 2'l 201° Clary of Rolling Hills SUBJECT: Recommendations for Erosion control in Northern Descending Slope Area at 18 Poppy Trail, Rolling Hills, California REFERENCE: Thomas W. Dibblee, Jr., Geologic Map of the Palos Verdes Peninsula and Vicinity, Redondo Beach, Torrance, and San Pedro Quadrangles, Los Angeles County, California, 1999. Dear Mr. and Mrs. Nakamura: In accordance with your authorization, we have completed this limited geo report in order to provide the recommendations for erosion control in the northern descending slope area of the subject site. It is our understanding that the northern descending slope is approximately 45, feet high and located on the north side of the subject site. The existing residential building is located approximately at or near the top of the northern descending slope. An existing elevated deck, approximately 4 feet wide is located on the north side of the existing residential building and over the northern descending slope. In review of the pre -grading topographic map which was supplied by you at the site, the northern descending slope is a graded fill slope. The depth of the fill is approximately up to 20 feet deep. An existing trench, approximately 4 feet wide, 5 to 7 feet deep, and approximately 70 to 80 feet long, was excavated at the location of approximately 15 feet northerly of the top of the northern descending slope. The intention of this long excavated trench was to be utilized for a new retaining wall foundation for the support of a new retaining wall. On September 16, 2019, we visited the subject site and observed the existing excavated footing trench. It was our finding that fill was encountered in the entire trench and all the way down to the depth of the trench excavated. Neither natural soil nor bedrock was encountered in the trench. The encountered fill consisted of a medium brown, moist, moderately soft to moderately stiff, silty clay with bedrock fragments. The loose fill was encountered in the upper 2 to 3 feet of the trench. Based upon our evaluation of the northern slope conditions and the soil material encountered in the excavated trench, we have herein provided the following recommendations ' for erosion control in the northern descending slope area: Mr. and Mrs. Nakamura - 2 - September 21, 2019 1. Due to bedrock not encountered in the excavated trench, we recommend that the excavated trench should be backfilled with 2,000 psi concrete up to at least 1 foot below the finished grade. The upper 1 foot of the trench should be backfilled with 90% compacted fill. 2. Geo mesh should be installed on the northern descending slope from the top to the bottom of the slope. The geo mesh should be extent at least 10 feet beyond the both ends of the excavated trench. 3. The northern descending slope should be planted with deep root system as soon as possible after the installation of geo mesh. Neither soil/ geologic investigation nor soil testing was performed on the northern . descending slope of the subject site. The above described findings, conclusions, and recommendations are provided based upon the site observation made by us on September 16, 2019 and review the available geologic map by Dibblee, and the pre -grading map supplied by, you. The above described findings and statements of professional opinions do not constitute a guarantee or warranty, expressed or implied. Thank you for this opportunity to be of service. If you have any questions regarding this opinion letter, please contact the undersigned at the letterhead location. Very truly yours, T.I.N. ENGINEERING COMPANY TSCL:ir Distribution: Client (1, by Email) Tony S..C. Lee, M.S., P.E. Project Engineer T.I.N. ENGINEERING COMPANY GEOTECHNICAL • STRUCTURAL • ENVIRONMENTAL • • FINDINGS AFTER HEAVY STORMS IN JAN 2017 Property owners at 11, 14 and 18 Poppy Trail claimed that damage was caused on their property due to work being done at 37 Chuckwagon. #37 Chuckwagon removed vegetation and created pathways (which require PC approval — See ZC NO. 920) A visit to all properties was made by staff and LA County drainage engineer and this is what he found: "It did not appear that any drainage coming off of 37 Chuckwagon was more than would have naturally traveled off the hillside. With this unusual rain event we had in late January there would have been more than normal run-off. However, there were no areas that appeared to channelize the water from 37 Chuckwagon. There was evidence on the side of the pop out that water was naturally seeping into the ground. There is a gap in the curb of the driveway at 18 Poppy and a tree stump a little ways below where water could have infiltrated the hillside. The Drainage and Grading Engineer did not see a direct contributory flow toward down slope properties. We suggest that all property owner review their drainage devices and conveyances and provide maintenance where needed." Yoshiya Morisaku Regional Drainage and Grading Engineer Building and Safety Division Los Angeles County Public Works Southwest Office / Lomita Office / South Whittier Office Email: ymorisaku@dpw.lacounty.gov In addition, owners of 18 Poppy Trail claimed that the drainage from a pool and dissipator approved at 33 Chuckwagon is faulty and causes much of the run off onto their property. In the field, Yosh stated that he will check if the drainage/grading was finaled on 33 Chuckwagon, and if it has, It would indicate that they constructed it per approved plans and it was properly designed. Per Lisa Naslund and the building permits — 33 Chuckwagon was finaled. A note in the Planning File (address file) for 33 Chuckwagon shows that following Nakamuras concerns, Wayne and Lisa visited the property, flow tested the rip rap and finaled the project including the drainage. See Email from Lisa, July 30, 2009. Oft Friday, April 14, 2017 :45 AM Pacific Daylight Time Subject: 33 Chuckwagon Permits Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: Lisa Naslund <LNASLUND@dpw.lacounty.gov> To: Yolanta Schwartz <ys@cityofrh.net> CC: Yoshiya Morisaku <YMORISAKU@dpw.lacounty.gov> All permits finaled. Lisa Naslund, PE Drainage & Grading Section Head Los Angeles County Public Works Office: 626-458-6334 Page 1 of 1 ALL PERMITS ON 33 CHUCKWAGON %> 3270 Display - 1PB03546 File Edit View Communication Actions Help Cyr El -F_ 12 tr.- %CICi o L u I:3 U DAPTS PROPERTY ACTION INQUIRY/SELECT BSUPD END OF DATA LEGAL TYPE/NBR: TA 100000025218 SITUS ADDR: 33 CHUCKWAGON RD RHLL 902745278 OWNER NAME: HAZELRIGG,PETER AND MARY OWNER: _ SEL IDENTIFIER BL BL BL CP EL GR PL BP GP DPC905 MAI a 1006070029 0602230026 0504210030 0504070001 1009300005 0506300006 1009300001 0504070001 0506300006 DESCRIPTION TRELLIS AND OUTDOOR FIREPLACE UNDERPIN EXISTING STRUCTURE CONSTRUCT 2 RETAINING WALLS ON 1 F 1,550 SQFT POOL (STD PLNU 26077) OUTLETS FOR TRELLIS & OUTDOOR FIRE BURY EXISTING SWIMMING POOL / GRAD GASLINE FOR OUTDOOR FIREPLACE IMPROVEMENT IMPROVEMENT NEXT TRANSACTION: HOLD: 04/13/17 11:34:37 PAGE 1 SITUS: _ ISSUED FINALED 09/30/10 10/15/10 02/23/06 06/14/06 12/01/05 06/16/06 06/16/06 10/15/10 09/30/10 10/15/10 12/01/05 10/15/10 09/30/10 10/15/10 07/28/05 / / 07/28/05 / / DISPO NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL PF1=HELP 05/057 Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: RE: 33 Chuckwagon Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:00 PM From: Eckert, Lisa <LECKERT@dpw.lacounty.gov> To: Yolanta Schwartz < n _' ofrh.net> Cc: "Chatman, Wa - -' <WChat •an@dpw.lacounty.gov>, "Bagnell, Kit" <KBAGNELL@d ► ,'..county.gov>, Rosemary Lackow <rlackow@cityofrh.net> Conversation 33 Chuckwagon Hello, Yolanta, about a month ago Wayne 'and I verified that the rip rap was there in the correct location (not toward 18 Poppy Trail) per the as -built plan. We flow tested the area drains to verify that they went out the rip rap and they did. Mitzi Nakamura (of 18 Poppy Trail) was very concerned about this and so I called her today and let her now that everything had been constructed per plan. She was thankful and satisfied. Lisa Eckert, PE L.A. County Department of Public Works Building and Safety Division Southwest Office (323) 820-6500 Lomita Office (310) 534-3760 East Los Angeles (323) 881-7030 Counter Hours: Southwest 7:30-11:30am on Tuesday East LA 8-11:30 on Wednesday Lomita 8-11:30 on Thursday From: Yolanta Schwartz [mailto:ys@cityofrh.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:02 AM To: Eckert, Lisa Subject: Re: 33 Chuckwagon Thank you, He also needs to show as built trellis, barbecue, fire place etc. The plan we have has Page 1 of 3 • • R Pv 3,1 06 Mr. T. L. Belanger, City IAanager 2 Portuguese Bend Road CITY ur RCLLI.' G HILLS Rolling Hills Ca. 90274 Ay June 2, 1994 Dear Mr. Belanger: No or three weeks ago I mailed. to Mr. Sidney H. Croft, a report: which I had been preparing for several months. It was returned to me by the Post Office. possibly because Mr. Croft has changed his address. I wanted ,the .report to go to the lawyer for the Rolling dills Community Association and I understand that Mr. Croft is the man. If so will you kindly deliver the report to him when he comes to the City Hall. The subject of the report also concerns you as' well, so I hope you will read- it before giving it to Mr. Croft. Earlier, I was well-acquainted with Rolling Hills but I moved from Torrance to Fallbt•ook and then to Oregon.. That is why I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you. You did,however, send me the questionnaire regarding wastewater,. and you sent me a drawing of Poppy Trail. At one time or another I owned all three of the lots served by the common easement at the bend of Poppy Trail. It has been said that when I bought the lot from Mr. ?acCabe, I also bought -Parcel 4 (of Title Insurance and Trust Co. Policy # 0835330), and'when I sold the lot to Dr. Wolinsky, he became owner of Parcel 4. The truth is, when Mr. 1`IacCabe bought his lot the property line was straight 'across the 92.54-foot line. just as you showed in the drawing you sent to.me. Parcel 4 was nearly all Road Easement; as recorded in Title Insurance Policy # 0835330. The section of the Policy, is copied completely in my report to Mr. Croft. In this report I stated that. I bought and sold the ?McCabe lot while this 1963 policy was in effect. I didn't need to write "bought and sold". I only needed to say "bought" because'if I hadn't bought Parcel 4, I couldn't have sold it. When I sold the house lot to Wolinsky, he received the 50-ft easement along with the road easement, but he didn't receive . any 'of 'Parcel 4.-If the MacCabe deed says anything else, it was inaccuratel- written by an escrow person who mistook the Parcel 4 line and angles for a property line. The mistake was made when I bought the lot and was copied 9 years later when I sold it. All this has no reflection on the City Manager.. I am aware that you only transmittet data that was passed. on to you. RTspectfully 'ours :John W. Whittington 1994 Manorview Cir. NW Salem, Or. 97304 ;,;ay 19, 1994 1 r. Sidney F. Croft 210 Avenue I Suite D. Redondo Beach, Ca. 90277-5622- Dear Mr. Croft: After nearly 5 months of work, I am enclosing a review of what has transpired in and around Poppy Trail in Rolling Hills. Why such an effort has been necessary, you are better informed than I. I agreed to help George Morris; from a distance of 1000 miles, this has been dificult. I sincerely hope that what I have written can solve the problems for all of us. Very truly ,yours-,, i4J 1994 Manorview Cir. Salem, Or. 97304 • • THE POPPY TRAIL AREA This paper deals with a particular part of the City of Bolling Hills, Ca. It could be called the Poppy rrail district:. The paper.is written. by a person who purchased property in Rolling '?il;ls and becoe a member of the Community Association in 1948, soon after the Association was organized. He was a member through ownership of oneproperty or another until 1990, a period of 42 years. Interest in the Poppy Trail area commenced in A961. The County of Los Angeles'had earlier divided parts of the peninsula into tracts, and the Palos Verdes Corporation divided some.tracts..into-lots. ;Minimum lot sizes depended on the area and the terrain. Title'Insurance com- panies guaranteed ownership, dimentions,easements etc..The Title Insurance and Trust Company was prominent among the insurers. In Rolling Hills, the tops of the hills were the first locations to be purchased and occupied; the sloping lots lower down were next to be occupied. The Poppy Trail section under discussion, is such a sloping area. Minimum lot area here was set at 4 acres. One plot of twelve acres. was divided into three lots, but because of the slope, access was a problem. The solution was to create one easement road or driveway to serve the three lots. The end of this road was, of course, to reach Poppy Trail, .the public street. The terrain of the land here, with a deep drainage ditch to cross, required that Poppy Trail make a turn to the east. Drainage water in the ditch goes thy' a large iron pipe. Fill dirt was dumped over the pipe and the deep ditch was completely filled so as to form a "bridge" across the ditch. The fill extends only across Poppy Trail. A ,wooden railing was erected across the south side of the "bridge". It was a natural decision to end the easement at this northern boundary of Lot 9, where it would be on Poppy Trail when the Trail was completed. Tills spot was destined to 'become a busy area. In 1955 and 1956, the Palos Verdes Corp. granted deeds to the Community Association which then granted easements to utility companies to build pole lines, gas lines, under -ground conduits, telephone wires,sewers, bridle trails,and easements for private land owners. In studying the easements granted in this small area, I counted 17. I!?"any- of them exist today. dhen the Title Insurance and Trust. Co prepared. policy 0835330 in 1963, all of the easements then in effect,were included. These were all taken from the County records.applving to what we can call Parcel 4, A copy of this wording is given below: PARCEL 4: AN EASEMENT FOR FOR ROAD PURPOSES OVER AND ALONG I HAI PORTION OF LOT 34 OF L.A.C.A NO. 51, IN THE CITY OF ROLLING HILLS, IN THE COUNTY OF LO S Av: ELES. STATE CALIFORNIA, AS PEP :?AP RECORDED IN BOOt 1 PAGE 1 OF ASSESSOR'S MAPS, IN THE OFFICE OF T?'E COUNTY RECORDER OF SAID COUNTY, DESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS: BEGINNING AT A POIIvT IN THE SOUTHEASTERLY BOUNDARY OF THE DEED TO ROLLING HILLS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, RECORDED AS DOCUMENT NO. 215 ON FEBRUARY 29, 1D56 _I a BOOK 50448 PAGE 29 OFFICIAL RECORDS OF SAID COUNTY, DISTANT , t__ NORs 1L ASTERY 98.40 FEET r .ln� �'4,, nos T SOUTHERLY CORNER THEREOF; 1 T1.:J1\ C E S0 J 79° 14' 00" EAST 86.33 TO A POINT IN L-.3 NORTHWESTERLY BOUNDARY OF TH3 LAD DESCRIBED AS PARCEL 1 IN DEED TO JOSEPH FERDERBER AND WIFE, RECORDED A3 DOCUMENT NO. 1434 ON JUNE 5, 1957 IN BOOS 54690 PAGE 282, OFFICIAL RECORDS, DISTANT THEREON NORTHEASTERLY 106.06 FEET F3OM THE MOST WESTERLY CORN 3 R THEREOF; THE. C-� SOUTH O 1 ' 1 "EST FEET 9-0 ;! f ! T� +-ir 1:i,y,J�J��1 j � ..J:�'VJ wiOV I.L� 35 21 30 �1::.�s 10 •2c v SAID ��_UJ�i �.a.s•� � J-li,Y. • -2- • CO2N 3R i 2EREOF; THENCE SOUTt1 35° 21' 30° WEST 106.26 FL ;T TO SAID MOST WESTERLY CORNER AND AN ANGLE POINT IN THE NORT:-� ERLY ?BOUNDARY OP LOT 9, TRACT N0. 19040, AS PER MAP RECORDED IN BOO 592 PAGES 28 TO 30 OF .;MARS. RECORDS OF SAID COUNTY; THENCE ALONG SAID NO T H :RLY BOUT. DARY, NORTH 72'04'40" i7".iST 50.00 PT; THENCE NORTH15'"22'00" BAST 90.52 ,F:J:s1' t'O THE POINT Ol' .NdGINNING. The enclosed illustration will show what the above description says. The explanation starts at point A, a landmark of the Community Association. The line goes north to point B, then east to point C,then south to point. D, then west to point,, then north to points. This completes the road -easement enclosure BCDEB. The distance from the 50 ft. line to the most northern line, is about 100 feet. • Note: the difference between 106.26 ft. and,106.06; about 2 inches, results from two separate surveys. The line AD in the drawing is important in this discussion because it is the junction of the easement for the three lots, with the puo.iic road. Point a at the end of line AD is the southernmost corner or land. deeded to Rolling Hills Community Association"in 1956. It is also important because ittf a northern boundary of lot 9 as laid out by Rancho Palos Verdes Corporation, this point being a reference terminal for many of the granted easements. For convenience,let us name the three lots sharing the road easement, the house lot, the MacCabe lot and the Reeves lot. When I sold the House lo+ to Wolinsky, his deed followed the Title Insurance policy. Wolinsky had access to Poppy Trail and he used it. In the Parcel 4 location, he had 'two easements, the 50 ft. one,and the one just described, if he needed it. The Reeves lot, while not touching Parcel 4 was dependent on the easements. The Reeves lot was the first one that I had bought, so, of course, I had an interest in all of the easements. Mr. MacCabe bought his lot about.196'4. In 1966 I bought the lot from him. I knew that' we all shared the easements and I also knew that Parcel 4 was. covered with easements, one on top of another, and all recorded. Mr.:1acCabe . does not now recall that his deed was any different from the Title Insurance policy then in effect, and. neither did I. But I do now. The deeds that are being used to substantiate the present clairn,use the same points and angles on the land to create property owned, as the Title Insurance police 0835330. dated 1963, used to define an easement. 'The mistake has been compounded by later docurnents,even the next eoat:ion of the Title Insurance policy has been affected. However, the MacCabe lot was bought and sold before this edition was issued on September 17,1975. If the mistake is not corrected now, the precedent could lead to unneces- sary problems.for all concerned, including, it seems to me, the Community Association. Numerous grants of easements in property, not made by, the owner. and not, favored by the owner, will lead to continual `strife. The present controversy is an example. The possession of additional property changes the taxes Violation of road easements will lead to legal problems. Refusal by the owner to permit passage over private land could require expensive changes. -3- Violation of Bridle Trail easements are likely. The owner would be responsible for granting new easements where public welfare is involved. In short,the mixture of public property with private property is sure to introduce unnecessary conflict. In the following study I wish to show that the' 50-ft road easement reaches Poppy Trail, and that therefor it is a true easement. In this I have employed one of many airplane views made for Rolling Sills in their drainage study. The enclosed contour map shows the land in terms of elevation. The elevation change between one contour line and the one next to it, is five feet. The second white line is 5 feet higher or 5 ft lower than the one next to it. This means that on steep hillsides, the lines would be close together. and in areas that are nearly flat, the lines are far apart. • I a,n indebted to the City for the map, and to the engineer who drew in, with ink, the border line of the NacCebe lot. In order to understand the steps taken in this'explanation'it is necessary to have at hand the aircraft view, a tracing that I made from the aircraft picture,and the enclosed drawing of Parcel 4. There were a number of facts that I knew about the road easement. I knew that the 50-ft length is part of a straight line 92.54 feet in length. I knew that the point A at the end of this line is an angle point 'in the boundary of property deeded tb Rolling Hills Community Association. I knew that the MacCabe lot dimention shown in ink, is 483.68 feet long.. From this I calculated the drawing length for 92.54 feet. I adjusted my compass for this length and placed the compass point at point A. I then drew an arc of this radius. Somewhere on the arc was the eastern end of the 92.54 ft. line (shown on the Parcel 4 drawing). The next step was to'draw the north -south arrow.-cncv,Ting that the 483 ft. line has an angle of S 7'46' 53 "W, it was possible for. me to draw inthe north -south arrow. With this arrow, ' I could 'use the angle N 72v04' 40' ' .'W to fix the 92.54 line. I colored this line red on'the tracing. By this method it has become evident that the 50-ft. easement: is on Poppy Trail with many feet to spare. . Please place the tracing on the contour map and adjust it to see that I have drawn the tracing accurately. I can see so clearly, from the maps,the details of Parcel 4 as I remember them. The space between the number 779. and the drainage ditch is black because the bridge is flat.4t is the only large flat area in the whole picture. I remember the draina,a;e�o be about 30 feet. deep. Now I count 6 contour lines from the bottom to the top of the ditch. Six times five shows tti,3t my recolation is correct..I remember that the asphalt paving of Poppy rrail comes to a sharp corner at its southern border,and that this is the same distance south.,as the southern side of Poppy Trail. I show this angle on the tracing as a dashed blue line. The railing of the bridge would be at about the location of the number 779. There is no other p?ace for Poppy Trail to rho eastabut between the number, and the drainage ditch.on the north side. I remember the corner'of the asphalt of Poppy Trail because, after storms and complaints of neighbors, I cleaned mud off of the asphalt, exposing the corner. This accurate descrip- tion is so different from the Poppy Trail diagrams shown in the "claims". ;•Luestion might be raised about the white stripe to the east of the bridge. On one picture's. similar stripe was labeled "Poppy Trail I don't know what caused the clouded areas, but I do know that Poppy frail doesn't take a dive into the drainage ditch.• The contour map. also shows the relatively "lat easement road as it rises to the The claim that; the Reeves lot was not approved as a building site was based entirely on personal intention, and. not on any factual justification. It was the first of the three lots I purchased. Like the :louse lot, it; deoen on the joint easements for access. The lots and their easements were scru- tinized by the Community Association Board of Directors when they met on the 'properties with their lawyer, to consider the Wolinsky"s request to build a barn on the adjoining properit:y. The Community Assn. has a requirement that no building shall be erect d. on a lot; prior to the building of a home. The purpose, of course, isrevent non -approved buildings from being turned into homes. The :7olinskys wished to keep several horses, which 'would require a larger barn than their house lot could accomodate, and would require access to Poppy Trail.for delivery of supplies. The Community Association's lawyer and. members of the Board met and studied the land, its boundaries and its easments. I knew of their study because I was there, and in the end,as owner of the property, signed the legal agreements. There was no question whatever that. the three lots were approved building sites. When Mr. NacCabe and his wife were trying to decide where they would put their house, they would have been surprised to hear that they had an extra four -acre' back yard. Similarly, Mr Reeves would have .been surprised to hear that his lot was not approved because he had succeeded in Betting his County taxes reduced. Mr. Reeves paid County and Association taxes on his lot for 5 or 6 years, and I paid them for 29 years, until I sold the lot. The passing of 20 years does not change an approved lot into one that is not approved. There are three or four groups of people involved in the controversy covered by this paper. During a long period of years, conditions remained unchanged and each group became accustomed and satisfied with the Poppy Trail easements and agreements. But conditions finally changed when new members entered and when it became evident that 'the rules and easements would go into effect. Then each group pondered how that would affect their special interests, and what could be done to safeguard that special interest. I don't find it necessary to review all. those activities, but one should be understood and repeated. A mistake was made in 1966 when I purchased the lot from Mr. MacCabe. I did not detect a change in the deed that was given tb me, and Mr. MacCabe sa-; he doesn't recall that there was any change between the Title Insurance policy and the deed which Was prepared by the escrow company. The change which was made could have been a natural mistake by someone not proficient in 'metes and bounds1 terminology. The truth is that the Title Insurance and Trust Company Policy No. 0835330, dated 1963 included a recorded road easement that was copied earlier in this Paper. When the deed of Mr. MacCabe's property was delivered to me, the property's borders were described in metes and bounds, and when it came to Parcel L, the angles and lengths of the road easement of policy # 0835330 were used in out- lining the MacCabe property.It bears repetition because it is the basis of"C1aim. Uhen I bought the lot firom Mr. Reeves, and when I sold the house lot to Dr. Wolinsky, there was no such Parcel 4 property included. Several years ago, when I expressed to Dr. Wolinsky, my surprise that a square of property was to be granted to him without cost, his. responce was "The want to raise my taxes;' At that time,he meant it. -5- These last para, phs concern the actual to ation of Poppy Trail, the resident's road. In 1D55 and 1956, when so many easements were being assigned and recorded in "Parcel 4", the location where Poppy Trail falls in elevation and makes a right angle turn to the east, the road.V�a�,�I, not have been paved but its location was very positive. I know that'a`com- pleted and paved in 1960. The City Hall has copied Denn Engineers'. neaps made in une seventies and eighties, and using them in an attempt to show that the 3-lot easement does -not reach Poppy Trail. I have some of these maps myself. None of them shows Poppy Trail definitely, in Parcel 4. Some maps show dashed lines, and some by very light lines, where tne-limits or the 7Jrail might be. The dasned line that the City Hall nuts copie..,belongs to a Bridle trail easement. How could the engineer do anything else when there are 17 over -lapping easements in Parcel 4? The best way to learn the precice location of Poppy Trail is to go to Poppy Trail, rather than to study easements. When Palos Verdes Properties located the 50-ft. easement on the north border of their Lot 9, they • knew where the private road was, or would be. The aircraft view has been a great help. there else in the entire peninsula can these visual facts be found? The stream from the west, fed by a spring. I have information regarding' this bp'ring which goes back to 1903. The recorded easement for "maintaining and repair of the existing water tunnel" adjacent to the 92.54 line, the northern border of Lot 9. The flat area -depicting the "bridge". The 30-foot deep drainage ditch on the opposite' side of the Trail. The rising terrain to the west. My own knowledge of the square corner of asphalt of Poppy Trail shown dashed in blue on the tracing. Attached. as . page 9, is one of the - contour maps 'bearing• a white stripe. The stripe is labeled "Poppy Trail As can be seen•, the stripe plunges into the 30-foot deep drainage ditch, Evidently it isn't Poppy Trail. 'flay i e , 1994 4ii,44Ra,VCLE ABCQA N �' 15 PA R G 5 1- .4-. - off% i1 a x` MO/?rNckN ecEA A:YYOFr:;-q�" &95EMeyr FOR ROAP PaAreo.s. s 77 rX,E f/Y, (RANG .E Pa 610 Y 08,33.3.30 S ; 96 86,a3 h Qb' ' 9 \ a.v rE'RDL-R ER. soFT:iNN /SfifTHE:1;PerrNa 3-1 i V c r; V ". 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