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50TH ANNIVERSARY
1957 - 2007
July 25, 2007
Mrs. Cathy Nichols
14 Crest Road West
Rolling Hills, CA 90274
Dear Mrs. Nichols,
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INCORPORATED JANUARY 24. 1957
NO. 2 PORTUGUESE BEND ROAD
ROLLING HILLS, CALIF. 90274
(310)377.1521
FAX: (310) 377-7288
Thank you for your recent letter and calling to our attention the barn at 7 Quail Ridge
Road South. From the perspective of enforcing the municipal and building codes, it is
important to know when there is a presumed conversion.
With the knowledge of a converted barn that does not comply with the Municipal Code,
the City is in a position of initiating code enforcement efforts that ultimately could
involve legal prosecution. However, before commencing with enforcement measures,
the Planning Commission and City Council will be discussing the topic of barn
conversions on a broader, citywide basis. From the discussion, direction will be
received relative to code enforcement efforts.
Your interest and perspective as well as the input of the entire community will be
valuable on this matter. We hope you will contribute to the dialogue and welcome your
participation.
Thank you.
Sincerely;
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City Manager
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Mike Jenkins, City Attorney
Yolanta Schwartz, Planning Director
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Tony Dahlerbruch, City Manager
2 Portuguese Bend Road
City of Rolling Hills
BY
Board of Directors of the Association
1 Portuguese Bend Road •
City of Rolling Hills
MAY 2 2007 May 19, 2007
CITY OF ROLLING HILLS
Dear Directors and City Manager,
I am concerned that it appears that the very large, new, two story "barn" with second
story dormer windows which was recently built at 7 Quail Ridge South is being
converted into something else. The owner has recently added very high quality sliding
glass and screen doors normally found in a house. They often close the barn doors over
the new doors to hide them when they are not using the building. A satellite dish has been
placed on the roof (even though the house is much higher and better positioned for
satellite reception, so the dish must be for an entertainment room in the new "barn"). Lots
of trucks have been coming and going since the "barn" was finished. One neighbor
mentioned air conditioning being added, but I do not know if this is true. At a recent pool
party, couples in swim suits were coming and going from the nearby pool into this
building as if it were a house.
The history of this property raises significant concerns about this apparent conversion.
The owners wanted to build a cabana, but were turned down by the planning commission.
instead of working with the planning commission to get approval, they went to the City
to get an over-the-counter barn approval. Since they had already done extensive grading
of the property over at least two weekends (something several the neighbors saw and
some reported), they were within grading limits and built the "barn".
It now appears that they are in the process of creating a cabana much larger than what
they were told they could not build. This seems very unfair. I know they tried to sell the
property at a multimillion dollar gain and failed at such a high price. That is, however, no
excuse for breaking the rules that all the rest of us have had to follow.
Finally I have mentioned to both the Association and City staff that when the pool was
built, the pool equipment was not covered, fenced or screened. I had understood that this
would be done and that landscaping would be added to the pool and barn to provide
screening, but the landscaping added provides no screening of the equipment or barn.
As a result I look at their pool equipment and am bothered by the noise, not to mention
the starkness of the huge "barn". To further add insult to injury they have moved their
large ugly (black and bright yellow and blue) trampoline so that it is totally in my view
not even partially hidden by the barn. At the pool party they had 10 kids in it bouncing
and yelling. Itcduld easily be moved to be hidden by the huge•"barn" but then they might
see it from their house. Could you please look into this situation? Thank you.
Sincerely,
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December 11, 2009
Planning Commission
Dear Planning Commission members:
I wanted to take a moment to send you the documentation to which I referred in you
November 17, 2009 meeting. In this meeting I told the Planning Commission that I had
come to the meeting to ensure that the covered porch expansion would not occur on or
near my property and to remind the City that I believe that several feet of my neighbors'
second driveway and landscaping is on my property. In 2002 when their driveway was
built and landscaping completed, I expressed my concern to the Community Association
that I would lose my property because their driveway was on my land and by all
appearances it looks like their property. I used as proof that my property corner
monument was removed when their driveway was built and that several feet of asphalt
which was on my property was removed. The Don Crocker said that the plan the
Association had approved for 16 Crest had the neighbor's driveway going up to their
property line but not beyond it --see attached approval map. My neighbor did not agree
that the area in contention is on my property. The Association said that a new survey
would need to be done. My neighbors did not want to pay for this and neither did I.
Per our discussion following these meeting the Nagelhout's suggested that to protect my
property rights and yet avoid paying for a survey, they would provide me with the
attached letter and would also send a letter to the Association which recognizes that we
disagree on where the property line is and that by waiting to correct this encroachment
until a survey is done at some point in the future, I am not in any way relinquishing my
property rights.
I send these attachments to you to ensure that the City remains informed that a property
line dispute exists and that I have in no way relinquishing my property rights.
Thank you for your time
RECE ED
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Road West
Rolling Hills, Ca. 90274
DEC 1 1 2009
City of Rolling Hills
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December 29, 20Q2
Ms. Cathy Nichols
14 Crest Road W
Rolling Hills, CA 90274
Dear Cathy:
The purpose of this letter is clarify our belief and intention that if a portion of the
driveway and/or landscaping on the east side of our property, although approved by
permit with the Community Association, encroaches upon your property, that this in no
way eradicates your right to ownership of that portion of the property. In addition, it is
our belief and intention that this applies to all successor owners of your property and our
ProPerty.
We have both agreed for economic reasons not to perform a professional survey to
determine the degree to which the driveway and/or landscaping may encroach upon your
property. We acknowledge your belief that the driveway and/or landscaping does
encroach upon your property, and should a condition arise to require a professional
survey, we will engage a mutually agreeable engineering firm to perform the survey.
Cathy, thank you for working out this issue with us in a cordial and collaborative manner.
We have enjoyed having you as a neighbor and look forward to a long and friendly
relationship as part of the Rolling Hills Community.
Sincerely,
(� Robert V. Nagelhout &
'Julie A. Nagelhout
16 Crest Road W
Rolling Hills, CA 90274
Cc: Peggy R. Minor — Association Manager
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Members of the City Council
City of Rolling Hills
2 Portuguese Bend Road .
Rolling Hills, Ca 90274
Honorable Mayor and Members of the Council:
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DEC 1 3 2002
CITY OF ROLLING HILLS
As is explained in detail in my attached letter to the Association, I
am increasingly concerned that actions taken by the Association and the
City in approving the building and landscaping of my neighbor's
property at 16 Crest West is making it appear that my neighbor owns my
land. I own to the center of my neighbor's circular driveway that
borders my land, 14 Crest Road West. I did not want it built but was
informed that the Association approved and since they had the easement
they could give access away. I was assured that this in no way would
affect my ownership or control of my land. I received the same
assurances as I questioned my neighbor's landscaping of my land in the
easement which borders our properties. Then a small rock wall and a
wall of small trees bordering the driveway were added on my land as
well as theirs. The landscaping of my land by my neighbor makes it
increasingly appear that they own my land. (Given that the original
owner was allowed to put this immense house far over against one side
of his property over my objections, I own very close to their house.)
I therefore want a letter from the City of Rolling Hills and the
Association Board's lawyers stating unequivocally the this is my land
now and forever and my neighbor's do not now and never will have
ownership of. nor control of, my land despite the action that the City,
The Association and my neighbor's with their approval may have taken to
make it appear otherwise. I have not from the beginning understood why
this was approved. It is however very important to me that this in no
way affects my ownership of, control of, and use of my land. Given the
appearance that the combined actions of the City and the Association
have created, I need written recognition, not just verbal assurances.
that I am in no way relinquishing my property rights since I clearly do
not wish to do so.
Sincerely,
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Cathy Nichols
14 Crest Road West
Rolling Hills, Ca 90274
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Board of Directors
Rolling Hills Community Association
1 Portuguese Bend Road
Rolling Hills. California 90274
Dear Board Members:
December 11, 2002
I am concerned about the actions taken by the Association and perhaps the City in regards to
granting the use of my property to my neighbors at 16 Crest Road West. It increasingly looks
like my property belongs to my 'neighbor. I do not want to loose rights to my land. (I fought
the original house plans years ago unsuccessfully being concerned with its placement so near
my property in what appeared to me to be the easement and its immense size, planned multiple
family use, etc.) As it became clear that the new owners were planning to place the circular
driveway on my property. I called Peggy Minor to request that this not be done. She told me
that it was a grandfathered driveway because the original house used it and it was in an
Association easement so according to the rules I had no say about its use by my neighbors.
This seemed strange to me since the house was torn down and placed differently on the
property. In addition the 15-car garage is on the opposite side of the house and has another
driveway to access the house and garage. I expressed strong concerns that I did not want to
loose control of, ownership of, or use of my property. Peggy assured me that that would never
happen. It also seemed to me unfair to let my neighbors pave my land when they were already
covering so much of their own with concrete. She explained that I had no say because the
Association controls the easement and had approved the neighbor's plan. I called again when
the neighbor's landscaped my property along the easement which borders our two properties,
again being assured that sprinklers, lawn. etc does not affect ownership. The most recent step
has been the addition of a small stone wall and a wall of trees along the driveway. It clearly
makes it look as if my neighbor owns my land.
I am very concerned that years from now I will be told that I gave up ownership of my property
by granting my neighbors use of it. I have not. In fact I asked that this not be done. The
Association and the City including whoever approves the landscape and hardscape plans has made
decisions which worry me greatly. My property goes to the center of my neighbor's driveway.
When the driveway was put in my property marker was removed. As the landscaping is being
completed, my property more and more appears to have been granted to my neighbor. At the
Cnristmas Party I expressed my increasing concerns to some City officials and was told that I
should take action to ensure that my rights are protected. I therefore want a letter from the
City of Rolling Hills and the Association Board's lawyers stating unequivocally that this is
my land now and forever and that my neighbor's do not now and never will have ownership of nor
control of my land despite the actions that the City, the Association, and/or my neighbor's
may have taken to make it appear otherwise.
Sincerely,.
Cathy Nicho s
14 Cr .Road West
Rolling Hills, Ca 90274
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