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MINUTE. S, OF A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COUNCIL
OF THE
CITY OF ROLLING HILLS, CALIFORNIA
JULY 14, 1997
CALL TO ORDER
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Rolling Hills was called to order by
Mayor Pro Tem Hill at 7:30 p.m., in the City Council Chambers, at City Hall, 2' Portuguese
Bend Road, Rolling Hills, California.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers Present: Heinsheimer, Murdock, Pernell and Mayor Pro Tem Hill.
Councilmembers Absent: Mayor Lay.
Others Present: Craig R. Nealis, City Manager.
Lola Ungar, Planning Director.
Marilyn L. Kern, Deputy City Clerk.
Officer Helen Bosaz, SPCALA
CONSENT CALENDAR
Matters which may be acted upon by the City Council in a single motion. Any
Councilmember may request removal of any item from the Consent Calendar
causing it to be considered under Council Actions.
a. Minutes - Regular Meeting of June 23, 1997.
RECOMMENDATION: Approve as presented.
b. Payment of Bills.
RECOMMENDATION: Approve as presented.
C. Correspondence from BFI regarding monthly Recycling Report for May, 1997.
RECOMMENDATION: Receive and file.
d. Southern California Gas Company Notice of Proposed Rate Increase,
Application No. 97-06-025 with the California Public Utilities Commission.
RECOMMENDATION: Receive and file.
Councilmember Murdock requested that the minutes of June 23, 1997 be considered
separately. Councilmember Pernell moved that the City Council approve the remaining
items in the Consent Calendar. Councilmember Heinsheimer seconded the motion which
carried unanimously.
a. Minutes - Regular Meeting of June 23, 1997.
After indicating that "June" should be changed to "July" on the top of page 6,
Councilmember Pernell moved that the City Council approve the minutes of June 23, 1997
as amended. Councilmember Murdock seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS
None.
TRAFFIC COMMISSION ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS - Continued
ZONING CASE NO. 555, SUBDIVISION NO. 82 AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
NO. 21400; A REQUEST TO MODIFY A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 3 -LOT
SUBDIVISION OF LAND AT LOT 85-RH, AND CURRENTLY, 10 PINE TREE
LANE, ROLLING HILLS, CA, AN EXISTING LOT THAT HAS ONE RESIDENTIAL
UNIT, TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY MR. AND MRS. WILLIAM HASSOLDT. LOT 85-
RH CONSISTS OF 7.826 ACRES GROSS TO BE DIVIDED INTO THREE PARCELS
AS FOLLOWS: PARCEL 1 - 2.78 ACRES GROSS, 2.07 ACRES NET; PARCEL 2 - 2.58
ACRES GROSS, 2.07 ACRES NET; AND PARCEL 3 - 2.47 ACRES GROSS, 2.01
ACRES NET. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
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City Manager Nealis presented proposed field trip dates provided by the applicants.
Hearing no objection, Mayor Pro Tem Hill continued the public hearing to Thursday, July
24, 1997, beginning at 8:00 a.m., at 10 Pine Tree Lane.
ZONING CASE NO. 545A, CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF PLANNING
COMMISSION DENIED REQUESTS FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND DENYING
A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO PERMIT AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE
FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR A STABLE AND CORRAL BY THE INABILITY OF
THE COMMISSION TO MAKE AFFIRMATIVE FINDINGS ON THE
APPLICATIONS BY MAJORITY VOTE. MS. KELLY TSOU, 6 RINGBIT ROAD
WEST (LOT 8 -A -2 -SF).
City Manager Nealis presented the staff report providing background and information
requested by the City Council at their field trip on June 4, 1997. He reported that
correspondence from the Klondike Canyon Geologic Hazard Abatement District in Rancho
Palos Verdes opposing the project and from Fritz and Mimi Hartwig, 3 Pinto Road
objecting to any grading or building on this property has been placed before the City
Council, as these letters were received today, after the agenda materials were completed.
Mayor Pro Tem Hill opened the public hearing and called for testimony.
Mr. Stan Lamport, applicant's representative, provided an overview of the proposed
project and indicated that he will be addressing concerns raised by the City Council and
adjacent property owners who have objected to the project. Mr. Lamport presented
exhibits demonstrating how he feels the project meets Site Plan Review and Variance
criteria and does not impact the Flying Triangle Slide. He also presented a comparison of
the proposed project and a previously approved project on the site proposed by E & S
Development, information regarding additional geological testing completed on the
property by the applicant's consulting geologist Mr. Keith Ehlert and hydrology
information prepared in response to concerns raised regarding run-off from the proposed
project. Mr. Lamport provided a copy of a letter dated June 23, 1997, from grading
contractor Mr. Dutch Phillips addressing concerns raised regarding whether dirt can be
stored on site without being placed into the canyon or adjacent property and methods used
to prevent debris from sloughing into the canyon. Mr. Phillips explained the County
requirements regarding prevention of this type of sloughing.
Mr. Doug McHattie, South Bay Engineering, pointed out on a cross-section plan of the
property, the areas of proposed grading and locations where the pad elevation will increase
from a range of 2 to 5 feet.
In response to Councilmember Pernell, City Manager Nealis explained. that the County of
Los Angeles has informally reviewed the soils and geology reports presented by the
applicant and provided their standard conditions that would be required to be reviewed for
a case within this proximity to a hill side and the Flying Triangle Slide.
Noting that it was past the time specified for the Open Agenda, Mayor Pro Tem Hill
requested that the public hearing regarding this Zoning Case be held. Hearing no
objection, he called for the open agenda.
OPEN AGENDA - APPROXIMATELY 8:00 P.M. - PUBLIC COMMENT WELCOME
Hearing no comments from the public, Mayor Pro Tem Hill returned to the public hearing
on Zoning Case No. 545A
PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE 545A CONTINUED
Mr. Charles Raine, 2 Pinto Road, expressed concern for the calculations of water run-off
submitted by the applicant to enter the surrounding properties and canyons. He presented
his scenario as to how the improvements to this property will add to the number ,of
gallons of water that will run-off to the Dessy (4 Pinto Road) and Hartwig (3 Pinto Road)
properties below. In response to Mr. Raine, Mr. Lamport explained the drainage courses
on an exhibit depicting the topography of the project site and surrounding properties.
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Mr. Raine also explained the lateral movement of the Flying Triangle Slide and its effect
on properties on Pinto Road and Klondike Canyon. He commented on the additional
geologic testing on the property. ; Hezt�g^ pre ssed concern regarding the applicant's
explanation regarding the depth of bedrock and";inagnitude of grading for the proposed
project. Mr. Raine provided the Council with a copy -of a plot map highlighted to depict
property owners in the immediate area that have objected to this project.
Councilmembers discussed the' concerns raised by Mr. Raine. Councilmember
Heinsheimer provided an overview of the points that he feels that the parties are in
agreement on. In response to Councilmember Pernell, Mr. Raine explained the amount of
water he feels will run-off into the canyon below due to the proposed residence and
hardscape improvements to the property and what he feels the absorption factor will be.
Mr. William Horn, 16 Southfield Drive, expressed concern regarding the location for the
proposed stable.
In response to Councilmember Heinsheimer, Mr. Lamport explained that the proposed
plans meets the City's requirement to show a location for a future stable and corral area.
He explained the Planning Commission suggestion that the stable be presented in this
location and stated that the applicant would be willing to consider another location.
Dr. Alfred Marrone, 17 Southfield Drive, expressed concern for the type of presentation
given by the applicant's representatives and stated that he feels that the calculations for
this case are misleading. He further expressed concern for the proposed grading for the
project. Dr. Marrone also commented on the number of neighboring property owners
expressing their objections and concerns for this project. He indicated that he would not be
opposed to a project on this property if grading were kept to a minimum.
Mr. Herb Agid, 60 Portuguese Bend Road, commented on the land movement in the
Flying Triangle area and how it relates to his property. He suggested that the proposed
project's effect on the Flying Triangle Slide be studied thoroughly and be analyzed by an
independent consultant.
In response to Dr. Marrone's comments, Mr. Lamport stated that the oral presentation,
testimony and reports from experts in various fields and various exhibits given to the City
Council were designed to answer specific questions and concerns raised by the City Council
and neighboring property owners. He stated that he feels Dr. Marrone's comments were
inappropriate. Mr. Lamport further explained how the drainage analysis was calculated
and the information received from the test trenches done on the property. In response to
Dr. Marrone's concern that the applicant is preparing for a spec house, he indicated that the
Ms. Tsou has stated that she plans to live in the proposed residence and she is sensitive to
the concerns of her neighbors.
Discussion ensued regarding the issues raised during public testimony. In order to
alleviate the concerns and answer the questions raised, Councilmember Heinsheimer
suggested that the applicant provide additional technical information regarding how
drainage will move from the property over time to the properties below and an evaluation
of any possible effect of that flow on the Flying Triangle Slide; proof of bedrock and
compaction above bedrock and actual recompaction area necessary for completion of this
project focusing on the depth of the bedrock over a larger area than was presented this
evening; a graphic representation of proposed grading activities on the property over time
and procedures that will be taken to ensure that soil and debris will not enter or deface the
canyon below; provide a plan showing an additional stable location that would not
necessitate a Variance; and a detailed drawing of the quantity of hardscape and a graphic
demonstration of the distance between this property, the proposed graded area and the
Flying Triangle. Councilmember Pernell suggested that the additional information be
subject to independent verification. City Manager Nealis commented on the new grading
confirmation process used by staff and stated that the County of Los Angeles will review
the additional information provided by the applicant.
Mrs. Carol Marrone, 17 Southfield Drive, expressed concern that the information
presented by the applicant's representatives and consultants have not been verified by an
independent source. Mrs. Marrone commented of the grading for -the proposed project
and stated that the previous E & S development project did not require grading.
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Hearing no objection, Mayor Pro Tem Hill continued the public hearing to the August 25,
1997 City Council meeting, in the City Council Chambers at City Hall, 2 Portuguese Bend
Road, Rolling Hills in order for the applicant to respond to questions raised at the meeting.
RECESS
Mayor Pro Tem Hill recessed the meeting at 9:45 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at 9:50
p.m.
CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING
COMMISSION REGARDING A PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO. 269: AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ROLLING HILLS REQUIRING GARAGES TO BE
CONSTRUCTED ABOVE GROUND, PROHIBITING THE CONSTRUCTION OF
NEW SUBTERRANEAN GARAGES, AND AMENDING TITLE 17 (ZONING) OF
THE ROLLING HILLS MUNICIPAL CODE.
City Manager Nealis presented the staff report. Mayor Pro Tem Hill opened the continued
public hearing. Hearing no discussion, he closed the public hearing and called for a
motion.
Councilmember Heinsheimer moved that the City Council waive further reading and
adopt Ordinance No. 269. Councilmember Murdock seconded the motion which carried
unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF VIEW PRESERVATION COMMITTEE
RESOLUTION NO. VPC -97-1 SETTING FORTH FINDINGS RELATING TO THE
TRIMMING OF TREES AT 11 QUAIL RIDGE ROAD SOUTH RELATING TO A
VIEW IMPAIRMENT FROM 2 SPUR LANE.
LOCATION: 11 QUAIL RIDGE ROAD SOUTH
PROPERTY OWNER: DORIS MCNABB
COMPLAINANT: BURT ARNOLD, 2 SPUR LANE
APPELLANT: DORIS MCNABB
Mayor Pro Tem Hill opened the public hearing. Hearing no objection he continued the
public hearing, at the appellant's request, to the August 25, 1997 City Council meeting, in
the City Council Chambers, at City Hall, 2 Portuguese Bend Road, Rolling Hills.
CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO. 270 TO MODIFY AND
AMEND THE ZONING CODE OF THE CITY OF ROLLING HILLS REGARDING
GUIDELINES ESTABLISHED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR BUILDING
PAD COVERAGE FOR LOT DEVELOPMENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
(PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL)
City Manager Nealis presented the staff report. Mayor Pro Tem Hill opened the public
hearing. Hearing no discussion he called for a motion.
Councilmember Heinsheimer moved that the City Council waive further reading and
introduce Ordinance No. 270. Councilmember Murdock seconded the motion which
carried unanimously.
Mayor Pro Tem Hill continued the public hearing to the Monday, July 28, 1997, City
Council meeting for consideration of second reading and adoption of Ordinance No. 270.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL FILED PURSUANT TO SECTION 6.24.040 OF
THE ROLLING HILLS MUNICIPAL CODE RELATIVE TO THE REQUIRED
CONFINEMENT TO PROPERTY OF A DOG PURSUANT TO AFFIRMATIVE
FINDINGS UNDER SECTION 6.24.030, OF THE ROLLING HILLS MUNICIPAL
CODE FOR OWNER OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 MIDDLERIDGE LANE SOUTH.
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City Manager Nealis presented the staff report. Mayor Pro Tem Hill opened the appeal
hearing and called for testimony.
Officer Helen Bosaz, SPCALA, reported on the comments in her report and the
investigation process.
Mrs. Linda Cigliano, 1 Middleridge Lane South, provided the City Council with copies of
letter from neighbors stating that her dog has not shown aggressive behavior toward them
or their animals. She stated that she witnessed the incident and feels that this was an
isolated incident and was caused by Mr. Bebout's actions toward her dog. ,
Mrs. Tamara Torino, 6 Middleridge Lane South. stated that her brother-in-law Mr. George
Bebout witnessed the incident and chased the dog with a stick to protect her dog. She
stated that she wants to be assured that her animals are safe on her property.
Ms. Lori Cornell, 9 Maverick Lane, stated that she has experience with dealing with
animals and is familiar with Mrs. Cigliano's dog. She said that she has never seen it
exhibit vicious or aggressive behavior.
Mr. Scott Pines, speaking on behalf of Mrs. Cigliano, commented on the report completed
by the SPCALA. He indicated that he feels that sufficient proof has not 'been shown
relative to this case. He commented on the written statement dated July 12, 1997, that he
provided to the City Council this evening.
City Manager Nealis explained the process outlined in the Municipal Code for addressing
animal attacks on persons or other animals.
Mr. George Bebout, 1725 Bret Place, Apt. 103, San Pedro, stated that he was a visitor on Mrs.
Torino's property and witnessed the attack. He indicated that he chased the Cigliano dog
with a stick to try to prevent an incident between the two dogs.
Councilmembers and those in attendance discussed the incident and concurred that since
the incident occurred on the Torino property that they should uphold the City Manager's
decision to confine the Cigliano dog to their property. City Manager Nealis explained the
modification of a confinement order outlined in the Municipal Code. Hearing no further
discussion, Mayor Pro Tem Hill closed the appeal hearing and called for a motion.
Councilmember Pernell moved -that the City Council uphold the City Manager's decision
relative to this matter. Councilmember Heinsheimer seconded the motion which carried
unanimously.
RESOLUTION NO. 822: A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
ROLLING HILLS, CALIFORNIA, AUTHORIZING AN EXCHANGE OF
PROPOSITION "A" TRANSPORTATION LOCAL RETURN FUNDS WITH THE
CITY OF TORRANCE.
City Manager Nealis presented the staff report. Hearing no discussion, Mayor Pro Tem
Hill called for a motion.
Councilmember Heinsheimer moved that the City Council adopt Resolution No. 822.
Councilmember Murdock seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
MATTERS FROM MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
None.
MATTERS FROM STAFF
None.
MATTERS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY
None.
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ADTOURNMENT
Hearing no further business before the City Council, Mayor Pro Tem Hill adjourned the
meeting at 10:30 p.m. to an adjourned regular meeting to be held on Thursday, July 24,
1997, beginning at 8:00 a.m. for the purpose of conducting a field review at 10 Pine Tree
Lane.
Respectfully submitted,
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Marilyn L. Kern
Deputy City Clerk
Approved,
Frank E. Hill
Mayor Pro Tem
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