3/24/1967MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF ROLLING HILLS, CALIFORNIA
MARCH 24, 1967
tA special meeting of the City Council of the City of Rolling
lls was held at the City Hall.., 1 Portuguese Bend Road, Rolling Hills,
lifornia at 7:00 A.M. on.Friday, March 24, 1967.
ROLL CALL
Present: Councilmen Hesse, Klein, Nadal, Tourtelot
Mayor Fay
Absent: None
Also Present: Teena Clifton City Manager
William Kinley City Attorney
E. L. Pearson E.L. Pearson Assoc.
Mrs. Paul Saffo Resident
Mayor Fay called the meeting to order, anal requested that the
City Manager report on the meeting held on March 15. Mrs. Clifton then
reported that at 8:30 A.M. on Thursday, March 15 a meeting was held -at
the terminus of Line C. as directed by a resolution of the City Council
at the meeting of March 13, 1967. Present at the meeting were Mr. E.L.
Pearson of E.L. Pearson Associates, Mr.. Harry Davis and Mr. Irwin Hol-
ston of the Construction Division of the Flood Control District, Mr. Rex
Murphy and Mr. Richard Murphy of Murphy Construction, contractors for the
project, and Mrs. Clifton. The purpose of the meeting was to meet with
. and Mrs. Edgar Worth to consider the necessity for extending Line C.
s. Clifton, in answer to questioning by Mayor Fay, said that the Worths
d been notified of the proposed meeting, but did not attend; that Mrs.
rth had stated that it was her morning to ride horseback, and.Mr. Worth
had not given any reason for his absence. Councilman Nadal stated that
he called Mr. Worth when he learned that he had not attended the meeting,
and Mr. Worth told him that he felt that he had appeared before the Coun-
di1 on March 13, had written letters to make his wishes clear, and that
his presence at the meeting was not necessary.
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Mayor Fay requested that the City Manager read the letter from
Mr. Tom Clarke, Chief Engineer for E.L. Pearson Associates, dated March 20
and the letter from Mr. Milan W. Ransom, Assistant Chief Deputy Engineer
for the Los Angeles County Flood Control District dated.March 22, 1967.
Mrs. Clifton read the letters, and Mayor Fay directed that the letters be
made part of the record.
From E. L. Pearson & Associates to the City Council, City Rolling Hills,,
March 20, 1967: Re: Extension of Line "C" Project 6601, Los Angeles County
Flood Control District Bond Issue
Honorable City Council: In investigating the possibility of extending
Line "C" of Project 6601 to the southerly property line of the Worth
Property it is believed the present location, as shown on the improvement
plans for Project 6601 provides an adequate outlet for storm water into a
natural watercourse.
extend the drain as indicated above would be for the benefit of a single
operty owner. However, it should be understood the proposed improvement
oes not preclude the extension of the storm drain at a future date by the
City, Los Angeles County Flood Control District or the property owner.
If the drain were to be extended to the southerly line.of the Worth property
at this time, it is estimated the cost would be approximately $5,500.00.
March 24, 1967
This is based on unit prices furnished by the contractor for Project 6601.
If there is any additional information you may require please do not hesi-
tate to let us know. /s/ Thomas C. Clarke, Chief Engineer, RCE 9757
From Los Angeles County Flood Control District, March 22, 1967, File No.
364-6601.60 Project No. 6601, Line C Resolution of the City of Rolling Hills
Dear Mrs. Clifton: In response to your verbal request relative to the Res-
olution passed by the City Council on March 13, 1967, we wish to reply as
follows:
With respect to Item 1, we have instructed the contractor to proceed,
keeping in mind the potential changes which might be occasioned should
the City and/or the District decide that changes are required.
With respect to Item 2, the meeting was held on the morning of March 15
and it was agreed at the site: (a) That the contractor would be willing
to extend the line and he furnished prices to your City Engineer,,Mr.
Pearson, and (b) that from an engineering point of view there was no
necessity to extend the line in order to serve the purpose for which the
project was intended.
With respect'to Item 3, in view of the above, in which it was determined
that there was no basic reason for extension of the line insofar as the
project is concerned, no Bond Issue funds can be made available for this
purpose; however, since the main purpose of extending the line would be
for the benefit of private.property, the District would be willing to dis-
cuss with its contractor construction of such an extension, provided funds
were made available to finance same.
With respect to Item 4, this matter was covered in Item 2.
With respect to Item 7, it is pointed out that the plans now call for a,
headwall at the upstream side of Portuguese Bend Road to conduct the wa=
ter from the Saffo property to the storm drain. No additional work
could be authorized under this project.
We trust -that the�.above clarifies any questions there may be in connection
with this District's position with respect to Project No. 6601. Walter J.
Wood, Chief Engineer By /s/ Milan W. Ransom Assistant Chief Deputy Engineer.
Mayor Fay then asked Mr. Pearson for his comments. Mr. Pearson
stated that it was his understanding that the Flood Control District
would be willing to allow a change in the type of catch basins for Line C
if the Council so requested because of the concern of residents in the
area. He further stated that the Flood Control District has been reluct-
ant to authorize installation of grate type catch basins, because they
have the obligation to maintain the basins, and a grate type is more of
a maintenance problem. Mr. Pearson said that day to day maintenance will
fall to the Community Association. He agreed, however, that esthetically i=
they are more desireable than the curb type basin, and would be preferred
by horseback riders. Mr. Pearson also said that he understood the Flood
Control District had decided that the northeast catch basin on Crest Road
should be eliminated; it catches only a small amount of water and would
not affect the efficiency of Project 6601, and elimination of the catch
basin will also eliminate the question of diversion of water. Councilman
Tourtelot asked why the catch basin had been authorized if it didn't
carry much water and'could be eliminated without causing any problem, and
Mr. Pearson said that the criteria is set by the Flood Control District,
and catch basins are installed at intersections to "clean up" the inter-
section of water, but where litigation is a possibility, the recommendation
would be to eliminate the catch basin.
Mayor Fay asked whether the Worths had been apprised of the
estimate that it would cost $5,500.00 to extend Line C, as they requested,
and the City Manager stated that she had decided it should first be pre-
sented to the Council. When asked about the time element, Mrs. Clifton
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stated that if the Worths decided to pay for the extension, some additional
engineering probably would be required, and an immediate:. decision was
necessary.
Councilman Hesse stated that inasmuch...as.Mr. Worth had stated at
the City Council meeting of March 13, 1967 that there was no damage to his
property, it was his suggestion that the project continue as is, especially
with the assurance that there will be no problem if the drain.on Portuguese
Bend Road is eliminated.
Mr. Pearson then informed the Council that Flood Control Drains
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rdesigned for a 25 year storm, with six inches of water on Crest Road,
Ind that even.in the unlikely circumstance of six inches of water on
Crest Road, it would.flow down the natural escape on.Georgeff; acid compar-
atively -little would go into the catch basin on the north east side of
Crest Road. In answer to further questioning, Mr. Pearson stated that no
expenditure is necessary to eliminate the drain.,
Councilman Nadal moved that Mr. Pearson's recommendations with
respect to eliminating the Northeast catch basin, and going to grate
type catch basins instead of curb -type be accepted. Councilman.Hesse
seconded the motion, and it was unanimously carried.
ADJOURNMENT
Councilman Tourtelot moved for adjournment at 8 A.M. The motion
was seconded by Councilman Klein and unanimously carried.
APPROVED:
Mayor
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