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Monday, June 10,
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
MINUTES OF THE
REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF ROLLING HILLS
meeting of
to order by
Bend Road,
1968.
JUNE 10, 1968
the.City Council of the City of Rolling
Mayor Nadal at the Administration Build -
Rolling Hills, California at 7:30 P.M.
Councilmen Fay, Sauer, Mayor Nadal
Councilmen Hesse, Klein
ALSO PRESENT: Teena Clifton
William Kinley
Marion Welch
June Cunningham
Miss J. Tufeld
Mr. J. Brogdon
Mrs. C. Jackson
Mr & Mrs. R. Schaefer
MINUTES
City Manager
City Attorney
City Treasurer
Secretary
League of Women Voters
Resident
Resident
Residents
It was moved by Councilman Fay that the minutes of the meeting
of May 27, 1968 be approved as corrected. Motion was seconded by
Councilman Sauer and unanimously carried.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES
Mr. Raymond Schaefer, a resident living at 69 Eastfield Drive,
dvised Mayor Nadal that he had appeared to speak on the subject he
had received. He stated that Mr. Fred Fuld, a resident living at
3 Crest Road East, had mailed to all residents in the city a letter
containing statements about the problem of speed within the city, and
an enclosure of agreement with his statements to be signed by the
residents and returned for presentation to the City Council.
Mr. Schaefer said that he did not consider the letter factual,
and further, there is no connection between the problem stated by Mr.
Fuld and the time factor regarding ambulance response as presented,
and he said that he wished to present facts opposing installation of
speed control bumps "on Crest Road, Portuguese Bend Road, Eastfield,
Southfield, Caballeros and such other streets as may be determined to
be in need of such traffic control devices". He stated that he had
clocked the distances on some of the roads mentioned by Mr. Fuld in his
letter, had broken the miles down to feet, and had compiled the results
as follows:
From the stop sign at the Main Gate to Crest Road - 1.7 miles or
8,976 feet. If bumps were installed every 500 feet as Mr. Fuld sug-
gested, there would be 17 or 18 bumps between the Main Gate and Crest
Road on Portuguese Bend Road.
Eastfield Road, from the East Gate to Crest Road - 1.9 miles or
,504 feet; 19 bumps on Eastfield Drive between the gate and the inter-
section with Crest Road.
Crest Road, from Crenshaw Gate to South Gate - 2.0 miles or
10,560 feet; 21 bumps on Crest Road.
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Mr. Schaefer said that the section of Mr. Fuld's letter in
which he broke down the time required for ambulance service into
various elements, -,-with the conclusion that with speed control bumps
an ambulance could average 35 miles per hour on Crest Road, with a
maximum time difference of 43 seconds with speed control bumps was
"pure theory"; rather, Mr. Schaefer stated, an ambulance driver who
was unfamiliar with the City might, on encountering the first bump,
slow down even more than necessary, and therefore the time factor
cannot be reduced to actual minutes or seconds, or even predicted.
Mr. Schaefer advised the Council that it was his opinion
that the problems in Rolling Hills are no different from problems
in Rolling Hills Estates, Palos Verdes Estates, Torrance or Los
Angeles, and the residents of those cities would not tolerate in-
stallation of speed bumps on their main streets as a means of speed
control.
Mr. Schaefer referred to the final section of Mr. Fuld's
letter, suggesting that the only way to eliminate pressure fur using
Crest Road as a pass-through for non-residents is to make it more
inconvenient, and stating that the only practical and economic way
to do this is with speed control bumps. Mr. Schaefer stated that
residents should not be inconvenienced so that non-residents would
be inconvenienced; rather, he said, strict control of entry through
the gates should and must be maintained and controlled.
With reference to Mr. Fuld's final statement that "It would
be tragic to see some child wiped out because of the lack of action
on the part of the Rolling Hills City Council", Mr. Schaefer stated
that he is not in any way insensitive to the welfare of the children,
and he is sure that their welfare is of great concern to members of
the Rolling Hills City Council and all residents of the City; however,
he urged that another way of controlling speed be found.
Mr. Schaefer then presented as another objection to the speed
bumps the possible effect on property values within the City. He
stated that it was his opinion that if a prospective buyer entered
the City and, in order to inspect property for sale, had to traverse
bumps on any of the main roads, e.g. Portuguese Bend, Crest or East-
field, as suggested by Mr. Fuld, they might be initially impressed
by the convenience of the hazards, and decide that living in Rolling
Hills was not worth the inconvenience of reaching the property they
were considering purchasing. Mr. Schaefer urged that serious consid-
eration be given to the possible effect on property values in the
City. He then suggested that as one method of control of speed, con-
sideration be given to the hiring of additional personnel for speed
control only.
Mayor Nadal thanked Mr. Schaefer for his appearance, and
opened a discussion on the subject of speed control.
City Attorney William Kinley advised the Council that he is
attorney for the Portuguese Bend Home Owners Association,, and that
he had discussed the matter of the speed bumps with Mr. Gordon Curtis,
who was president of the Association when bumps were installed on
Narcissa Drive. Mr. Kinley stated that Mr. Curtis had said that the
bumps were effective ','to a degree", and that there was a definite
relationship between the degree of effectiveness and the age of the
driver; that as the driver's age increased the effectiveness did also.
Mr. Curtis stated that teen-age drivers and drivers in the early
twenties were able to negotiate the bumps at speeds of 45 mph with
little apparent discomfort, but that it was observed that older drivers
slowed to the recommended speed when a bump was encountered. Overall,
Mr. Curtis estimated that the bumps installed on Narcissa Drive for the
purpose of speed control wer 35-50% effective in accomplishing that
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purpose. Mr. Curtis advised Mr. Kinley that to accommodate school
busses and trucks and trailers with long wheel bases the bumps must
be a maximum of 1 1/2" to 2"high, and 18" wide.
The City Manager advised the Council that she had been given
a copy of Mr. Fuld's letter with enclosure by one of the residents,
iand that several replies and letters had been received at the Admin-
istration Building, addressed to the City Council. She said she had
called to advise Mr. Fuld of the letters and to say they would be on
the agenda, and he said that he, too, had received replies, but did
not think he had a sufficient number to present to the Council, and
indicated that he would prefer to attend a future meeting.
Mayor Nadal ordered the matter held on the agenda.
Regional Planning Commission
Mrs. Clifton presented a Tentative Map for a Proposed -Subdiv-
ision in Tract 26545, unincorporated territory of the County of Los
Angeles. The map had been mailed to the City of Rolling Hills by Los
Angeles County Regional Planning Commission, asking the Council for
comments or recommendations. The map showed 190 residential lots and
one commercial area planned for 77 acres of the present Chadwick School
property and was prepared for R. A. Watt Co., Inc. Subdivider. Mrs.
Clifton advised the Council that the adjacent residential properties
in the City and County are zoned as RA 20,000 or R-1 20,000, and the
map presented represents approximately 7,000 square foot lots. She
reminded the Council that letters had been sent to Supervisor Burton
Chace by the City of Rolling Hills and Rolling Hills Estates, request-
ing that the remaining undeveloped property retain the same land use
characteristics that presently prevail in surrounding properties.
The Council directed that a similar letter be sent to the Regional
Planning Commission within the time specified.
The map was received and filed.
California Judicial Merit Plan Committee
A letter dated June 4, 1968 from the California Judicial Merit
Plan Committee was presented by the City Manager.
City Attorney Kinley advised that the Merit Plan Committee is
requesting that Senate Constitutional Amendment 2, being readied by
the State Legislature for the November 1968 election ballot, would
provide for specialized help in selecting qualified judges. He further
explained that the amendment would take the power of appointment from
the Governor, and that the Commission would have a file of qualified
appointees, and that Governor Reagan ana the resent administration is
in favor of the amendment. It was Mr. Kinley?s recommendation that if'
the City Council was in favor of the amendment, they so advise their
assemblyman and congressman.
Councilman Fay moved that City Attorney Kinley be directed to
prepare a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Rolling Hills
supporting Senate Constitutional Amendment 2, and that copies of the
resolution be forwarded to State Assemblyman Robert Beverly and State
Senator Robert S. Stevens.
Motion, was seconded by Councilman Sauer and carried by a unani-
mous vote, and Mayor Nadal requested that the City Attorney prepare
the proper resolution.
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REPORTS OF CITY DEPARTMENTS
Sheriffs Department
The Sheriff's Department,Report for the month of April 1968
was presented. The report was received and filed.
PAYMENT OF BILLS
Councilman Fay moved that Demands No. 762 through 773 be paid
from the General Fund.
DEMAND NO. PAYEE AMOUNT
762
Addressograph Multigraph Co.
26.53
763
County of Los Angeles
18.38
764
Gateway National Bank
139.50
765
General Telephone Company
157.16
766
Harbor Office Supply
33.81
767
Landmark
65.60
768
L. A. County Road Dept.
77.10
769
Morgan Moore's Stationers
10.92
770
Palos Verdes Newspapers, Inc.
12.72
771
Palos Verdes Water Co.
15.42
772
Rolling Hills Nursery, Inc.
40.00
773
Southern Calif. Gas Co.
6.53
Motion was seconded by Councilman Sauer and carried by the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Fay, Sauer, Mayor Nadal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Hesse, Klein
PROPOSED ORDINANCE - Vicious Dogs
City Attorney William Kinley presented a draft of an ordinance
entitled An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Rolling Hills,
California, Providing for Licensing, Impounding and Regulation in Keep-
ing of Animals.
In the discussion that followed Councilman Sauer stated that he
still is opposed to the ordinance with respect to the lack of definition
between "on premise" and "off premise", and Mr. Kinley offered the legal
opinion that it is better not to try to distinguish between on and off
premises, rather to consider a dog who bites "vicious", regardless of
whether the attack occurred on the property of the owner, or elsewhere
in the City.
Mr. James Brogdon, 5 Maverick .Lane, advised the Council that he
does not want a leash law, but if it becomes impossible to formulate an
ordinance to the satisfaction of all concerned, he thought a leash law
might be the only solution. Mayor Nadal assured Mr. Brogdon that a
solution will be found that will be generally satisfactory, but the
reason so much time is being expended is that the committee wants to
arrive at a workable solution, and the Ordinance, when passed, should
cover all eventualities as completely and satisfactorily as possible.
The City Manager was directed to send a copy of the latest
ordinance to the absent councilmen for their study and review, and the
Mayor ordered the matter held on the agenda.
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, PROPOSED ORDINANCE - Electrical Code
Councilman Fay moved that a proposed ordinance entitled "An
Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 5 of the City of Rolling Hills
Adopting the Los Angeles County Electrical Code by Reference':' be
introduced, and the reading in full be waived. Motion was seconded
by Councilman Sauer, and carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Fay, Sauer, Mayor Nadal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Hesse, Klein
PROPOSED ORDINANCE - Building Code
Councilman Fay moved that a proposed ordinance entitled "An
Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 6 of the City of Rolling Hills
Adopting the Los Angeles County Building Code by Reference" be
introduced, and the reading in full be waived. Motion was seconded
by Councilman Sauer, and carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Fay, Sauer, Mayor Nadal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Hesse, Klein
PROPOSED ORDINANCE -.Plumbing Code
Councilman Fay moved that a proposed ordinance entitled "An
Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 7 of the City of Rolling Hills
Adopting the Los Angeles County Plumbing Code by Reference: be
introduced, and the reading in full be waived. Motion was seconded
by Councilman Sauer, and carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Fay, Sauer, Mayor Nadal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Hesse, Klein
PROPOSED ORDINANCE - Mechanical Code
Councilman Fay moved that a. proposed ordinance entitled "An
Ordinance of the City of Rolling Hills Adopting by Reference the Los
Angeles County Mechanical Code'as Contained in the 1968 Edition of the
Los Angeles County Building Laws and Published by the Building News,
Inc. and Including the Appendix Thereto and Making Other Amendments"
be introduced,, and that reading in full be waived. Motion was second-
ed by Councilman Sauer and carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Fay, Sauer, Nadal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Hesse, Klein
The City Clerk was then directed to publish notices for a
public hearing to be held on the adoption of the ordinances on
July 8, 1968.
SUBDIVISION NO. 31, Tract 26769, J. H. Langworthy
Mrs. Clifton advised the Council that Mr. Kenneth Schorr,
engineer for Mr. J. H. Langworthy, had requested that the subdivision
be held on the agenda.
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AGENDA ITEMS HELD OVER
Eastfield Gate
The matter was ordered held on the agenda.
Fire Hydrants - Fire Flows
Mrs. Clifton advised that a meeting had been scheduled for
Thursday, June 13, 1968 to be attended by representatives of Palos
Verdes Water Company, Los Angeles County Fire Department, Mayor
Nadal, Councilman Fay and Mrs. Clifton, for presentation of the
finalized report on Fire Hydrants and Fire Flows in the City of
Rolling Hills.
_The matter was held on the agenda pending receipt of the
report.
Traffic Safety Committee
The Mayor ordered the matter held on the agenda for a report
from Councilman Hesse.
RESOLUTION NO. 229 - House Numbering, Crest Road East
Councilman Fay moved that Resolution No. 229 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROLLING HILLS, CALIF-
ORNIA, PROVIDING FOR A SYSTEM OF NUMBERING HOUSES ON CREST ROAD EAST"
be adopted. Motion, was seconded by Councilman Sauer and carried by
the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Fay, Sauer, Mayor Nadal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Hesse, Klein.
Resolution No. 229 is set forth in full in the Book of Resol-
utions.
MATTERS FROM CITY OFFICERS
Mr. Kinley, City Attorney, presented a copy of a report pre-
pared by Dr. Manley Natland entitled "Investigation and Report of
Structural Geology in Roach Area, City of Rolling Hills, California".
The City Clerk was directed to file the report and send a
copy to the Los Angeles County Engineering Geology Section for their
in depth review, and to request that upon completion of that review,
a report be made to the Rolling Hills 'City Council.
ZONE CHANGE PROPOSAL - Limited Manufacturing, City of Rolling Hills Estates
Mrs. Clifton presented copies of a letter dated May 1, 1968
from Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School District to Great Lakes
Properties, Inc. with referen.ct to the analysis of implications to
Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School District of Zone Change Proposal.
She also advised that the Rolling Hills Estates Planning Commission
was at the time meeting to consider the granting of the requested
change in zoning from RPD -8 U to LM-SR&D.
Councilman Fay advised that he had attended other meetings at
which the proposed change was considered, and that the Peninsula Advis-
ory Committee and the League of Women Voters are in fave of the zone
change.
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Councilman Fay moved that the Manager write a letter to Great
Lakes recommending in principal the letter of the Peninsula Unified
School District. Motion was-seconddd`b�-- Councilman Sauer and unani-
mously carried.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Council,
the meeting was adjourned at 10:05 P.M. on the motion of Councilman
Fay, seconded by Councilman Sauer and unanimously carried.
APPROVED:
Mayor
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