7/22/1968MINUTES OF THE
REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF ROLLING HILLS
July 22, 1968
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Rolling Hills was called to order by Mayor Nadal at the Adminis-
tration Building, 2 Portuguese Bend Road, Rolling Hills, Calif-
ornia at 7:30 P.M. July 22, 1968.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Councilmen Fay, Sauer, Mayor Nadal
ABSENT: Councilmen Hesse, Klein, Treasurer Welch
_.ALSO PRESENT: -Teena Clifton City Manager
William Kinley City Attorney
June Cunningham Secretary
Chief Ralph Russell L.A. County Fire Dept.
F. Boettcher South Bay Engineering
C. Kugler Lanco Engineering
RESIDENTS: J. Dunaway
J. Millhauser
Drs. A. & R. Wilcox
MINUTES
Councilman Fay moved that the minutes of the meeting of
July 8, 1968 be accepted as corrected. Motion was seconded by
Councilman Sauer and unanimously carried.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES
Mr. Fred Boettcher, Dr. Alex Wilcox, Dr. Ruthella Wilcox
Mayor Nadal recognized Mr. Fred Boettcher, South Bay
Engineering Company, who advised that he represented Drs. Alex
and Ruthella Wilcox, 6 Johns Canyon Road, subdividers of Tract
No. 24669. Mr. Boettcher said that the Wilcoxes have met all
requirements for the new street, underground utilities and storm
drain and request that consideration be given to waiving the re-
quirements of the 1250 gpm requirement of the Fire Department for
fire flow to serve the subdivision, since the existing line furnish-
es 850 gpm. Mr. Boettcher said that to provide the additional 400
gpm and the necessary hydrants, reducing stations and hook-up would
cost $5400, an amount the Wilcoxes feel is excessive. Mayor Nadal
stated that fire is of the greatest concern to the Council, and it
is their wish to accept the professional advice of the Fire Depart-
ment. Mr. Boettcher said that the area under consideration is, in
his opinion, less prone to fire than other areas in Rolling Hills,
because of the geography of the parcel and also because of its prox-
imity to land being farmed with nursery stock.
Dr. Ruthella Wilcox then requested permission to explain
the reason for the request. Dr. Wilcox stated that she and her
husband felt that the requirement put an unfair burden on them,
because many -.,other people in the area would also benefit. She then
stated that she had five questions that she would like included in
the record, and would like answers, if possible:
1. How many gallons per minute are delivered by the hydrants
served by the water line at Crest Road West and Buggy Whip Drive?
2. Does the water flowing through the main on Johns Canyon
Road still "dead end" on the Chadwick School property? Dr. Wilcox
said that water pressure on her property dropped sharply when the
pool on the Chadwick School was filled from the line on Johns Canyon Rd.
July 22, 1968
3. How many homes are anticipated on the Gordon Shultz
property, 10 Johns Canyon:i:-Road if and when it is subdivided?
4. How many homes are anticipated on the properties owned
by Mr. John Maeno and Mr. Mitsugi Yoshioka, land now used as a
commercial nursery?
5. Why was Mrs. Westerlund granted a -variance to 850 gpm
when two parcels of land owned by her on Johns Canyon were subdivi-
ded in 1966?
In reply to the first question, Mrs. Clifton read from
the map furnished by the Palos Verdes Water Co. as follows: Five
hydrants are served by the main at Crest and Buggy Whip, and the
respective water pressures are 3,000+; 3',464'; 1,193, 1;616 and
1,664 gpm.
To question number two, Mr. Kinley advised that the City
has no information or knowledge regarding the fire flow to the
Chadwick School property.
Councilman Fay answered questions three and four by say-
ing that none of the owners of the properties mentioned had applied
for permission to subdivide, nor had indicated in any way that they
were considering subdivision, so it is impossible to speculate on
the number of houses that might eventually be built on that land,
or whether any ever will be built.
To question number five, Mrs. Clifton explained that when
the Westerlund property was subdivided in 1966, the requirements of
the Fire Department were met.and no variance was granted; however,
the fire flow requirements have been raised since that time.
Dr. Alex Wilcox advised that in addition to the°.properties
previously mentioned, Mr. Walter Storm owns 68 acres in the area
and if it was ever subdivided the access road would be taken from
Johns Canyon Road. Under the circumstances he requested that the
financial burden be apportioned among the potential.sub.dividers.
City Attorney William Kinley advised that there is no provision in
the Subdivision Ordinance for sharing costs, and that it is up to
the subdivider to bear all expense incurred. He,further explained
that in large tracts there is a utility charge for individual lots,
but the Palos Verdes Water Company does not feel that apportionment
is worth the time and expense involved in subdivisions of the size
under consideration. He did suggest that Dr. Wilcox contact poten-
tial subdividers in his neighborhood, and then contact the water
company to see whether it would be possible to apportion the costs.
Dr..Wilcox stated. -that he had approached_Mr.:Gordon.Shultz with
the request, and that he was not at all receptive. Mr. Kinley then
asked whether they had considered spending the additional $5,400
and adding the cost to the selling price of the five lots, and Dr.
Ruthells Wilcox said they had consulted with Mr. Don Williams, a
real estate agent, and he said he did not think they could absorb
the cost in the lot sales.
Dr. Wilcox stated that she considers the present eight acres of.
brush now served by a line furnishing 850 gpm more of a hazard
that the new homesites would be, and requested -.that they be per-
mitted to remain at 850 gpm with individual pressure regulators
at each piece of property. Mayor Nadal asked whether she would
take the advice of experts, and she said she wished to have the
Fire Department consider her request on an individual. -basis.
Mayor Nadal asked `.Chief Ralph Russell, representing the Los
Angeles County Fire Department, for his comments and Chief Russell
said the requirements are based on the National Standard for pop-
ulation, density, terrain, etc. Mayor Nadal asked him if he would
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ask for an individual study of the Wilcox property and report back
to the Council on August 12. Mayor Nadal then ordered the matter
held on the agenda.
Mr. James Millhauser
Mr. James Millhauser, a resident of 2 Ringbit East
stated that he wished an interpretation of the proposed ordinance
providing for the controlof animals and licensing dogs. He said,
that he had been unable to obtain a copy from the Administration
Office, and Mr. Kinley told him that copies would available after
the ordinance had been studied by the Department of Animal Control.
Mr. Kinley said a meeting had been scheduled with Mr. Manley Lin-
ville of that department, the City Manager and the City Attorney,
and that a report would be presented to the Council at the August 12
meeting.
Mayor Nadal ordered the matter held on the agenda until
that date.
CORRESPONDENCE
Schorr Engineers
The City Manager presented a letter dated July 9, 1968
from Schorr Engineers representing Mr. James Langworthy, subdivider
of Tract No. 26769. Mr. Schorr advised that Mr. Langworthy had
encountered difficulties in recording the final map, and requested
a one year extension of time to accomplish recordation.
Motion to grant the extension of time was made by Council-
man Fay, seconded by Councilman Sauer and unanimously carried.
REPORTS OF CITY DEPARTMENTS
Fire Department
The Fire Department Report for the month of June 1968 was
presented. The report was received and filed.
Sheriff's Department
The Sheriff's Department Report for the month of May 1968
was presented. The report was received and filed.
Sheriff's Department - Policy & Procedures Manual
The City Manager presented the new edition of the Policy
and Procedures Manual of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department
and stated that the manual will be kept on file in the office for
reference.
FINANCIAL REPORTS
Councilman Fay moved that the report of the City Treasurer
for the month of June 1968 and.-tbe Financial Summary for the month
6f June 1968 be approved. Motion was seconded by Councilman Sauer
and unanimously carried.
PAYMENT OF BILLS
Councilman Fay moved that Demands No. 808 through No. 821
be paid from the General Fund.
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DEMAND NO. PAYEE - AMOUNT
808
809
810
811
812
813"
814
815
816
817
818
819
820
821
Crocker -Citizens National Bk. 139.50
General Telephone Co. -
147.94
League of Women Voters, L.A.
2.74
Lomita Maintenance Service
100.00
L.A. County Road Dept.
288.16
Palos Verdes Newspapers, Inc.
13.52
Public Emp. Retirement Sys.
287.65
Simpson & Paul Ins.
688.00
So. Calif. Edison Co.
81.89
William Kinley
500.00
Alma C. Clifton
394.40
June C. Cunningham
394.40
Patricia A. OMonnell
179.03 J`
Alma C. Clifton
197.20
PROPOSED ORDINANCE - Vicious Dogs
Mayor Nadal ordered the ordinance held on the agenda
pending a report of the meeting with Mr. Manley Linville of the
Animal Control Department.
BUDGET- FISCAL YEAR 1968 - 1969
Mayor Nadal opened..a' discussion of the 1968-69 Budget
which had been presented to Councilmen for study at the July 8th
meeting.
Park Maintenance.,,,,. Los Caballeros
Councilman Sauer advised the Council that in Fiscal
1967-68 $1,000 was allocated to Los Caballeros for Park Maintenance
and a total of $1,028 was spent for weed control, trash collection
and maintenance of the portable rest rooms at the ring. He said
he has had an estimate of $1,050 for necessary additional expend-
itures for fiscal 1968-69: $400 to paint the fence (after it has
been sanded by members of Los Caballeros) and $650 for sand to
cover the ring to 2 1/2" level. He therefore requested that an
additional $1,000 be allocated to Los Caballeros -for. -Fiscal -1968-69.
Following discussion, Councilman Fay moved that an addit-
ional sum of $1,000 be allocated to Los Caballeros, Park Maintenance
making a total allocation of $2,000 in the budget for 1968-69, and
that the Contingency fund be reduced from $55,642 to $54,642.00.
Motion was seconded by Mayor Nadal and carried by the following
roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen
NOES: None
ABSENT: ....Councilmen
Fay, Sauer,. Mayor Nadal
Hesse., Klein
Proposal - Narcotics.Coordinator
Councilman Sauer asked about the allocation of $1,000
for a Narcotics Coordinator, and requested clarification of the
City's participation in the program. Mayor Nadal explained that
several meetings have been held in the Rolling Hills Administration
Building, attended by a representative of the -Palos Verdes Penin-
sula Unifie.d,School District, Peninsula Council for Youth and rep-
resentatives of Los Angeles County, the cities of Palos Verdes
Estates, Rolling Hills and Rolling Hills Estates. The plan that
has evolved is to hire a Narcotics Coordinator rather than an
enforcement officer. At present three men have qualified with the
County Employee•Review Board, and if the Agreement - Special Ser-
vices, Narcotics Coordinator is agreed to by the cities and the
school district, an appointed committee will interview the three
men and make the"'final decision on which to hire for the coordinator.
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RESOLUTION NO. 230
Councilman Fay made a motion for adoption of Resolution
No. 230 as amended, said resolution being entitled A -RESOLUTION
ADOPTING A BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ROLLING HILLS FOR THE FISCAL.
YEAR COMMENCING JULY 1, 1968 AND ENDING JUNE 30, 19693, AND FIXING
THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE
DEPARTMENTS OF THE.CITY OF ROLLING HILLS, DURING THE FISCAL YEAR
and moved that reading in full be waived. Motion was seconded by
Councilman Sauer and carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen
Fay, Sauer, Mayor Nadal
Hesse, Klein ,
SUBDIVISION NO. 39, Tentative Tract No. 28172, Albert Pinamonti
The City Manager presented -the -Tentative Map for.Tract
No. 28172, Albert Pinamonti, Lot 17RH, 4 Saddleback Road, Rolling
Hills; the Planning Advisor's Report dated July 9, 1968, and a
recommendation from the Planning -Commission of Rolling Hills fol-
lowing the Public Hearing held at the meeting of the Planning
Commission on July 16, 1968.
After discussion of the map, Councilman Fay moved that
a modification be granted on Lot No. 1 under Sections 5.04a and
5.04b of Article V, that all access rights to Palos Verdes Drive
North be waived, that the recommendations of the Planning Advisors
Report be approved, and that the recommendation of the Planning
Commission that a single access for both lots in the subdivision
be considered be referred to the Architectural Committee and the
Board of Directors of the Rolling Hills Community Association for
approval. Motion was seconded by Councilman Sauer and unanimously
carried.
Mayor Nadal ordered the matter held on the agenda for
a decision from the Architectural Committee and Board of Directors
with reference to a -common access -to both lots from Saddleback Rd.
AGENDA -ITEMS HELD OVER
Fire Hydrants - Fire Flows
The City Manager reported that thirty two new hydrants
have been installed in Rolling Hills, and another has been installed
in the area known:as Peacock Flats that will be beneficial to Roll-
ing Hills in the event of fire in the Crenshaw -Crest area; a new
line has been installed on Eastfield Drive in the Chuckwagon Road
area, and included in the up -grading of -service by Palos Verdes
Water Company is a new line to be installed on Possum Ridge Road,
which would materially benefit -properties down -stream.
Mayor Nadal directed the City Manager to keep the Council
informed of any service improvements by the Palos Verdes Water
Company, and ordered the matter removed from the agenda.
Traffic Safety Committee
Mrs. Clifton reported that Mr. Sutton,.Los Angeles County
Road Department, advised her that the work on the roads would begin
TAduring the current week.
Mr. Kinley advised the Council that he is in the process
of re -writing the Traffic Ordinance of the City of Rolling Hills
and would have a preliminary copy ready for presentation on
August 12.
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MATTERS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL
Non -Resident Use of Caballeros Ring
Councilman Sauer advised the Council that he had received
a complaint .from Mr. Glenn Schaffer, a resident wh,o, said that he�,c,-)
was unable to gain access to the ring recently because it was being.
used by a party -of 40 non-residents who had paid $5.00 per person
to the "Red Barn" (Rolling Hills Estates Municipal Stable) for a
trail ride and use of the ring in Rolling Hills. Mr. Schaffer also
told Mr. Sauer that he is training a horse, and often is unable to
get to the ring because of trailers parked illegally in the area.
In the discussion that followed the City Manager was
directed to contact the manager of the Red Barn to advise that
commercial trail rides to the ring may not be arranged without
authorization, and to define the use of the ring.
ADJOURNMENT
There'being no further business to come before the
Council, motion for adjournment at 10:45 P.M. was made by Council-
man Sauer, seconded by Councilman Fay and unanimously carried.
APPROVED:
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Mayor
City Clerk