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MINUTES OF AN
ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF ROLLING HILLS, CALIFORNIA
An adjourned meeting of the City Council of the City of Rolling -
Hills was called to order at the Administration Building, 2 Portuguese
Bend Road, Rolling Hills, California by Mayor Swanson at 6:30 P.M.
Monday, April 9, 1979.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
ALSO PRESENT:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilmen Crocker, Rose, Mayor Swanson
Councilmen Heinsheimer, Pernell
Teena Clifton
June Cunningham
Dr. Perry Ehlig
D. McHattie
Russell Barto
Mr. & Mrs. E. W. Hahn
Mr. & Mrs. H. Gelles
Mrs. K. Goldreyer
Mrs. J. Heinsheimer
W. Stringfellow
Mr. & Mrs. A. Shaw
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City Manager
Deputy City Clerk
Geologist
South Bay Eng. Corp.
Project Manager
Ernest W. Hahn, Inc.
Residents
The minutes of the meeting of March 26, 1979 were approved and
accepted as presented on a motion made by Councilman Crocker, seconded
by Mayor Swanson and carried by the following.roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Crocker, Rose, Mayor Swanson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Heinsheimer, Pernell
PAYMENT OF BILLS
Councilman Crocker moved that Demands No. 7894 through 7923, with
the exception of No. 7913 which was voided, be approved for payment from
the General Fund in the amount of $12,272.42. The motion was seconded
by Councilman Rose and carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Crocker, Rose, Mayor Swanson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Heinsheimer, Pernell
PALOS VERDES DRIVE NORTH TRAFFIC STUDY WORKSHOP 49
After discussing the meeting with the Rolling Hills Estates City
Council to review proposed improvements to Palos Verdes Drive North,
Mayor Swanson was requested to write a letter to the Rolling Hills
Estates City Council thanking them for the invitation to attend the
work session and presentation, and requesting that the Rolling Hills
Council be advised of future workshops and discussions of the proposed
project. Mrs. Clifton said she would advise Rolling Hills residents
who live on Palos Verdes Drive North and will be directly affected
that she has the plans for the road improvements in the office and
invite them to come in to see the plans and discuss the proposed
changes with her.
CALIFORNIA CONTRACT CITIES ASSOCIATION 85
A letter dated March 28, 1979 from California Contract Cities
regarding,proposed legal action on ambulance costs was presented to
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the Council. A meeting notice dated March 30, 1979 advised that the
matter will be discussed at the April meeting of the Contract Cities
Association to be held April 18 at Los Verdes Country Club. Council-
man Rose said he wished to attend the meeting and asked that a reser-
vation be made for him. Mayor Swanson said she will attend also, and
will present a plaque from Rolling Hills to retiring president, Charles
Belba.
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moved that
action at
Councilman
AYES:
NOES:
regard to the City's share of costs for legal action on
charges, the Manager reported that the year to date cost of
service to Rolling Hills is less than $200. Councilman Rose
the Council authorize participation in the proposed legal
a cost not to exceed $100. The motion was seconded by
Crocker and carried by the following roll call vote:
Councilmen Crocker, Rose, Mayor Swanson
None
ABSENT: Councilmen Heinsheimer, Pernell
OFFICE OF THE SHERIFF, LOS ANGELES COUNTY 126
In a letter dated March 27, 1979 Captain Paul Myron, Commander
of Lomita Station, advised that effective April 2, 1979 he would be
transferred and Captain Edward Douglas would assume command of Lomita
Station. Mayor Swanson said she had met Captain Douglas, and had
written on behalf of the council to congratulate him on his new assign-
ment and invite him to a Council meeting in the near future.
Members of the Council asked that a letter of commendation for
Lt. Walter Thurner, Lomita Station, be sent to the Sheriff's Department
in Los Angeles.
LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIRE SERVICE COMMISSION 132
A letter dated March 20, 1979 regarding an attempt by the Los
Angeles County Fire Services Commission to explore various -avenues by
which the efficiency and economy of fire and rescue service can be
improved was presented to the Council. Mrs. Clifton said she was
advised that the matter is before the Board of Supervisors, and the
letter was sent for purposes of information.
ANGELES GIRL SCOUT COUNCIL 142
Mayor Swanson said she has attended several Annual Dinners
honoring South Bay Girl Scouts for attaining First Class, the highest
level in Cadette Girl Scouting, but would be unable to attend the
dinner on June.7th because of a conflict in her schedule. Councilman
Crocker said he would represent Rolling Hills at the dinner if possible.
MEETING WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL 162
The Manager said she plans to meet during the week with the newly
appointed Fire Chief and the Captain of the local fire station to
discuss the weed abatement notification to be put in the Newsletter.
TRACT 33871, CHACKSFIELD-MERIT HOMES 169
Councilman Crocker said he would be available to meet with the
Manager, the Engineer and owners of properties to be subdivided in
the Johns Canyon area to discuss the proposed improvements in the
area on Friday, April 13 or Monday April 16. Mrs. Clifton said she
would contact the appropriate people to coordinate the meeting and
would contact Councilman Crocker to advise him which time would be
most convenient for all to meet.
In a letter dated April 4, 1979 Mr. McHattie requested a time
extension of 30 days to allow the developer enough time to process
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the sound barrier through the Architectural Committee and coordinate
plans with Councilman Crocker. The request was approved on a motion
made by Councilman Rose, seconded by Councilman Crocker and carried
by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Crocker, Rose, Mayor Swanson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Heinsheimer, Pernell
FLAME -X SHINGLES 210
The Manager reported that she has been working with the Archi-
tectural Committee in an attempt to resolve the matter of acceptable
fire retardant roofing.
Councilman Crocker moved that a 60 day moratorium be placed on
use of Flame -X shingles. Councilman Rose seconded the motion. After
discussing the need for regulations which would permit repair of roofs,
Councilman Crocker amended his motion to exclude from the moratorium
use of Flame -X shingles for repairs which do not exceed 25% of the
total roof area. The amendment was seconded by Councilman Rose and
carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Crocker, Rose, Mayor Swanson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Heinsheimer, Pernell
The motion as amended was carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmen Crocker, Rose, Mayor Swanson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilmen Heinsheimer, Pernell
ARRIVAL AT MEETING
Councilmen Heinshiemer, Pernell, the City Attorney and the City
Treasurer arrived at the meeting at 7:30 P.M.
RANCHO PALOS VERDES SLIDE UPDATE 242
Mrs. Clifton introduced Dr. Perry Ehlig, a consulting geologist
who worked on the report produced by Robert Stone and Associates for
the City of Rancho Palos Verdes.
Dr. Ehlig showed maps of the slide area and defined the boundar-
ies of the old Portuguese Bend slide area and the current Abalone Cove
slide area with relation to the boundaries of Rolling Hills. He said
he had recommended to Rancho Palos Verdes that the moratorium in that
city not be removed because he did not have sufficient data to recom-
mend terminating the moratorium. In answer to questions about the
extent of the study, Dr. Ehlig said the findings were based on test
borings, data from the Converse, Davis, Dixon report on the area and
on work he had done on the earlier Crenshaw area slide.
Councilman Pernell asked Dr. Ehlig to comment on the impact of
the slide on the existing and future development in Rolling Hills.
Dr. Ehlig said there may be no impact, since Rolling Hills is outside
of the active slide area. He explained that in the area of Rolling
Hills the beds are tilted in and the City does not have potential
slide planes going toward the sea. Councilman Pernell asked whether
any precautions should be instituted by the City with regard to in-
dividual development. Dr. Ehlig said he did not have sufficient'
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information on substructural elements in the area to make a recom-
mendation. Mrs. Clifton said two studies were made of properties in
the Flying Triangle, and she asked Dr. Ehlig whether review of those
reports would be helpful. Dr. Ehlig siad they might be, but he doubted
it, since he could not verify information contained in recent reports
of the area that he had reviewed. In conclusion Dr. Ehlig said it
would be highly desireable to eliminate water from above the slide area
but it is hard to sell people on sewers because of the cost involved,
which he said is a small amount compared to the value of the properties
and the cost of the residences which are affected by the slides. Dr.
Ehlig said the cost of the de -watering wells which have been recommended
will be at least $100,000, although the final cost is not yet known.
Mayor Swanson thanked Dr. Ehlig for his presentation to the Council.
PRESENTATION, ERNEST W. HAHN, INC. 431
Mr. Ernest Hahn addressed the Council on the proposed multi-level
retail.complex which he wishes to develop on 13 acres of commercial
property in Peninsula Center. A scale model of the proposed development
(.0 was displayed and Mr. Russell Barto, project manager, explained the
Q concept of the development as Mr. Hahn showed slides.
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Q Mr. Hahn said the development would require five additional traffic
Q signals and modification of two existing signals. He said that in ad-
dition to two large department stores, there would be 60-70 small shops
and restaurants, also meeting rooms for service clubs, a live theater
and an ice skating rink. Councilman Rose asked about the possibility
of pressure to open Crest Road to through traffic. Mr. Hahn said .his
studies indicate that the people who travel from the Miraleste and San
Pedro area to Del Amo currently use Palos Verdes Drive North to gain
access to Hawthorne and Crenshaw Boulevards, and will continue to do
so. He said studies show, further, that the hours of use by shoppers"
do not coincide with peak commuting traffic. Councilman Heinsheimer
said he considers the proposed development a revolutionary and funda-
mental change of the character of existing Peninsula development. Mr.
Hahn said the early development was done in small isolated areas, and
there is a wide range of architecture in the Peninsula Center. Coun-
cilman Pernell said he was concerned that eventual lack of maintenance
and vacancies could lead to downgrading of the area unless there is a
continuity of management. Mr. Hahn said he will continue to own the.
project, and would furnish security and landscape maintenance, which
will reflect his pride of ownership. Councilman Rose asked about
accessibility for all people. Mr. Hahn said code requirements will
be met; there will be parking for 2,000 cars, with handicapped parking
for 18-20 cars, as required by code. Councilman Rose said he did not
consider 1% a satisfactory ratio, and Mr. Hahn asked that Councilman
Rose meet with him to discuss parking and accessibility to all areas.
Councilman Crocker said there is a need for recreational areas
and community meeting places on the Peninsula, also more good shopping
facilities, and since the property is zoned for commercial development,
he would be interested in having one good development rather than a
few smaller, poorly designed ones. Mayor Swanson said she would prefer
to have a park developed on the land, but since it is zoned for commer-
cial development, she agreed with Councilman Crocker that an effort
should be made to have a good development. She asked who would control
the hours and operation of the ice skating rink. Mr. Hahn said the
facility has been leased by Metromedia, but the hours of operation of
the rink could be controlled to some extent, witin reason. He said
his Marketing Manager will schedule use of meeting rooms for community
events at no charge. Chairman Pernell said he would mourn the'loss of
the rural atmosphere, but would be satisfied to see it replaced by a
good development such as the one proposed, because of the zoning.
Mr. William Stringfellow, President of the Rolling Hills Community
Association Board of Directors, said that since the open fields were
going to disappear, he was interested in having them replaced by a
well planned development. He said there was concern expressed to the
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Board about the possibility that the skating rink would draw undesire-
able young people from areas outside of the Peninsula. Mr. Hahn said
he felt the security personnel could handle the matter. Mr. String-
fellow asked whether the Sheriff's Department has commented on the
proposed development. Mr. Hahn said it is included in the EIR on the
project, which defines the need for additional sheriff's services.
Mayor Swanson thanked Mr. Hahn and Mr. Barto for the presentation,
and she welcomed Mr. and Mrs. Hahn, former residents of Rolling Hills,
who are returning to the community on June 1.
RECESS
The meeting was recessed at 9:30 P.M. and reconvened at 9:40 P.M.
PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 33 1007
Mr. Kinley distributed copies of two proposed ordinances to amend
the zoning ordinance and asked that members of the Council review them
and be prepared to discussthem at the next meeting.
The City Attorney explained that the first proposed ordinance
deletes paragraph 4, "Accessory buildings for guest quarters or serv-:...:.
ants quarters provided that such accessory buildings have no kitchen
or kitchen facilities" from Section 1: Section 3.01 (A), Uses Permitted,
and adds to Section 2: Section 3.01 (D), paragraph 3: (a) Tennis courts,
paddle tennis courts, horseback riding rings, accessory buildings for
cabanas, guest quarters and servants quarters without kitchens or kit-
chen facilities, located in a building separated from the main resi-
dential building.
The second proposed version deletes.paragraph 4 from Section
3.01 (A) and in Section 3.01 (D) adds six conditions to paragraph 3 (a).
An alternative to the two proposed cordinances, Mr. Kinley said,
would be to put the matter in the hands of the Planning Commission
with the six proposed conditions required as a condition of receiving
a Conditional Use Permit. Requirement of an appearance before the
Planning Commission provides an additional body to consider a request,
he said, and the Council is provided by ordinance with the power to
overrule the decision of the Planning Commission on its own initiative.
Mr. Kinley said that while the Council considers the amendment to
the Zoning Ordinance, a moratorium on guest houses remains in effect
as a result of adoption of Urgency Ordinance U-33 at the last meeting.
The matter was held on the agenda for consideration at the next meeting.
MORATORIUM ON FLAME -X SHINGLES 1181
Mayor Swanson advised the City Attorney and Councilmen Heinsheimer
and Pernell of the 60 day moratorium on Flame -X shingles in excess of 25%
of the total roof area adopted prior to their arrival at the meeting.
Mr. Kinley said he would prepare an appropriate Urgency Ordinance en-
forcing the moratorium for adoption at the next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT 1196
There being no further business to come before the Council,
Mayor Swanson adjourned the meeting at 10:10 P.M.
APPROVED:
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